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Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:27 am to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:27 am to
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Or i can also add some things on my fence for cucumber right? What else grows vertically?


Absolutely. There’s plenty of ideas on the web for fence trellising. Pole beans and peas are also good for trellising. I’ve also seen some people trellis some smaller melons, but you have to “hammock” the melons once they start getting bigger. You can even trellis indeterminate tomatoes.

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Also if i have multiple beds are there certain things i shouldnt grow next to one another or within the same beds?


I would mostly pay attention to soil pH and water/nutrient requirements for the plants. Also, light requirements. You wouldn’t want to plant taller plants where they can shade out shorter plants that need full sun.

Disease susceptibility is also something to consider. Crop rotation helps with this.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:47 am to
Welp, most of the growing tips on my peas are dying. Even under the covers. The sprouts from the potatoes didn't make it either. We shall see how things go from here on both of these plants. The mustard greens and strawberries just laughed off being encased in ice for 2 days. I am going to see how things go next week but may be changing everything in my garden.
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 11:54 am to
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Current bed gets sun from 8AM till about 12:30PM. Another location would be full sun from 11:45 till about 5PM. Anything i should aim for one bed or the other?


Morning sun is better I'm sure, especially in summer. 4 hours is probably the min amount of direct sun needed.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 11:55 am
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:38 pm to
Nats flying all over my young plants inside. I’m assuming just because of contamination from soil i used from outside.

Any harm?

Or should I spray neem oil or something?
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:09 pm to
Here is a link I used to for companion planting . LINK
Posted by eng08
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 10:45 pm to
Neem or try ground cinnamon
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:19 am to
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Here is a link I used to for companion planting


That’s a great link. Added to the OP.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:58 am to
Well, looks like nighttime temps will be mid 40’s and higher for the 10 day forecast (for my area, at least). Time to bring the seedlings outside and start getting them acclimated.

The only exception being tomorrow night. Low of 38 for my area. I guess I’ll bring them inside for that one night. But it’s looking good for early spring type weather the rest of the forecast!

ETA: Squirrelinator trap is awesome. The sprinkler worked well when I only had a small garden to protect. With the recent additions, I would need like 4 or 5 of them. They’ve been digging in my yard and in my boxes. It got out of hand. So I decided it’s time to start trapping them. Set out the squirrelinator a couple days ago. Already caught 3.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 7:22 am
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 8:55 am to
I’ll have to add one of those to my arsenal. Netting and pepper have little of no effect. They’ve destroyed my carrots. Hickory nuts all over yard, little bastards insist on carrying them to raised beds to bury. I’ll be happy when trees start budding.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15363 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:04 am to
Any of you guys have experience keeping gophers out of your garden? My current plan is burying hardware cloth 1.5-2.0 ft deep at the fence to prevent them from entering the garden area. But I’ll have to replace that every few years.

We have deployed the gopher hawk but that’s going to take a while to put a dent into the population.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:08 am to
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I’ll have to add one of those to my arsenal.


Just caught another one this morning. Unfortunately this will be an ongoing effort. There’s a ton of squirrels in the neighborhood.

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Any of you guys have experience keeping gophers out of your garden? My current plan is burying hardware cloth 1.5-2.0 ft deep at the fence to prevent them from entering the garden area.


I think that’s your best bet. We don’t have gophers, but I’ve had a problem with moles. I’ve been able to keep them in check with scissor traps.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 9:10 am
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13468 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:40 am to
You ordered them online? It doesn’t matter how many I kill. They just keep coming, they must frick like wild hogs.

Buddy in TX was using propane to kill the gophers. Looked like it would be entertaining to do.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15679 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:04 am to
Yeah I ordered on Amazon. But I believe Tractor Supply sells them, too.

Rugged Ranch Squirrelinator Trap
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 10:06 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:14 am to
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Here is a link I used to for companion planting .

There was a great book published late last year on this subject-- Plant Partners: Science-based Companion Planting for the Vegetable Gardener by Jessica Walliser.

Really gets into all of the benefits of "companion planting", which is just one of many terms used to describe the concept of pairing different plants together to accomplish one or multiple objectives. Cover cropping is one such concept, but it goes further than just planting one when ground is "idle". I've planted cover crops right along side "cash crops" with good results.

The book is also great because it discusses the science behind specific pairings, like hairy vetch and tomatoes.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28145 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Well, looks like nighttime temps will be mid 40’s and higher for the 10 day forecast (for my area, at least). Time to bring the seedlings outside and start getting them acclimated. ?

The only exception being tomorrow night. Low of 38


I'm putting mine out either Tuesday or Wednesday. May have frost Tuesday morning.
Posted by FowlGuy
Member since Nov 2015
1365 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:39 pm to
You made dumplings yet?
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34707 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:36 pm to
The problem with squirrels is that you get rid of a bunch, then a new batch comes in. It's like you create a vacuum that sucks more in when you have created a void.

In one single season I eliminated over a hundred of them, yet I never depleted the population.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15679 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:43 pm to
Yeah, I know it’s going to be an ongoing battle. They’re making my back yard look like the surface of the moon. I miss having outdoor cats.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:15 pm to
Go to the pound. Buy a cat. Put it outside and feed and water for a few weeks.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5829 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:22 am to
My tomato seedlings are outgrowing their 3" pots already. I need to get them in the ground. I started these varieties from seed:

New big dwarf
Large barred boar
Pink Berkeley tie dye (didn't really like these last year so may replace with large barred boar)
Fred's tie dye
I also started Brad's atomic grape but for the second year in a row the seedlings just didn't really do well.

I'll add cherokee purple, big beef, and sungold/sweet million plants from the feed store.


I started the following peppers from seed, all of which are doing well:

Islander
Nikita
Big red
Carmen
Escamillo
Big jalapeno
Hot wax
Jimmy Nardello

I topped some of my peppers yesterday. I normally don't top the bell varieties.

I also started zucchini, squash, and cucumbers a week ago. Nearly 100% germination on all of those so that's cool.

This spring, I'm going with the Tiger zucchini variety that I've grown the past couple of springs. The vegetables look really cool and the plants do well for me. Instead of my normal yellow squash, I bought seeds for Zephyr squash, so we'll see how they do. Again, they just looked cool. I saw a mention of plant spacing on the other page. FYI, growing squash/zucchini in a tomato cage really helps with their footprint. I loosely follow the square foot method and I plant one plant per 4 sqft. Cage keeps them ruly and by the time they outgrow the cage, I'm over them anyway.

I'm going with sweet success cucumbers for my bigger variety cucumber and little leaf for my pickling variety. I normally have the Ukranian self-pollinating pickling cucumbers but my seeds got all mixed up so I'm going to give these a shot as an alternative.
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