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RM43 and Off Brand Glysophate

Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:21 pm
Attempting to kill some English Ivy in my backyard, I have used 2 rounds of Compare-N-Save 016869 Concentrate. Gone over the area once per 2 weeks. Bottle says 41% glysophate in it. Problem is the leaves are only yellowing slightly in some spots but nothing else in other places. Was hoping to get more than that effectiveness.

Enter, RM43, which is also a glysophate concentrate that is slightly more expensive than the Compare-N-Save version. Do any of you have any experience with either/or of these? Will the RM43 do more damage than I am currently getting with the Compare-N-Save product?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:28 pm to
Try using trichlopyr herbicides - you might find it more effective. Like glyphosate - there numerous generic brands.

Are you adding a surfactant to the spray solution? English ivy has a waxy leaf - surfactant will help the absorption of the herbicide by the plant.
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Are you adding a surfactant to the spray solution? English ivy has a waxy leaf - surfactant will help the absorption of the herbicide by the plant.


I haven't. Anything you particularly recommend?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:55 pm to

You can buy this at garden centers, hardware stores, farm supply stores, but not HD or Lowe’s. Add 2 teaspoons per gallon of spray solution.

P.S. systemic herbicides like glyphosate or trichlopyr take time to translocate through the plant to kill it, particularly a tough vine like English Ivy. Be patient, but persistent. Might take a couple months + to kill it but continue spraying it, I’d suggest at 3-4 week intervals until it dies.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27403 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 11:29 am to
Mix 24d and 41% glyphosphate

Add water. Add a half cup of dawn for 15 gallons.

Kills almost everything.

Even banana trees and wysteria
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12820 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:11 pm to
And knocks salivania back pretty good too.
Posted by Mizooag94
Hillbillyville, MO
Member since Sep 2018
1636 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:33 pm to
I get mine at the feed store, kills everything and I use a lot (farm, hunting, food plots). What I get for 50 bucks would cost 250 at Walmart or Lowes. I think it’s called ranger pro. As a bonus all the old coots there laugh at masks and social distancing. We still shake hands and say howdy.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27403 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

We still shake hands and say howdy.



quote:

Mizooag94


Dutch rudders aren't handshakes.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6198 posts
Posted on 8/1/20 at 2:42 pm to
I took out some Greenbriar with Tahoe and Finale. Tahoe is the Triclopyr that Craw is talking about.
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2271 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 8:16 am to
What’s the mix of 24d and glyphosphate? 50/50?
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 8:56 am to
24d. 2 oz per gallon
Gly. 2.5 oz per gallon
Posted by tygerfan1
Member since Aug 2008
2271 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 12:35 pm to
Thanks
Posted by reggo75
Iowa, LA
Member since Jan 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:02 am to
I have been using a traditional 41% Glyo mixed with 24D for years.

I recently started using RM43 for areas that I spray over and over. It is supposed to last for up to 1 year because it contains imazapyr. I'm only a few months into my experiment but so far so good. I'm not seeing any new growth in those spots after about 3 months.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63999 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:17 am to
If it's in a shady area, it takes alot longer to kill. The shaded ivy's and vines I sprayed this year took a month to start dying, the sunny spots were dying in 48 hours.

This was with Roundup's Ivy Control mix, which is glyphosate and trich (i think).
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:30 am to
quote:

Mix 24d and 41% glyphosphate


My go to that will kill everything it touches.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 2:43 pm to
Can this formula be used in an "Ortho Dial N Spray" sprayer? If so what flow rate per gallon would you use? I have a large area I need to spray.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 8/7/20 at 5:59 pm to
Not familiar with that sprayer. The ratio given will kill just about anything regardless of the sprayer I would imagine
Posted by tigers1956
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
4778 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 4:27 am to
Will this stuff kill Virginia creaper...
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 12:22 pm to
I haven’t come across anything it won’t kill
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2923 posts
Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Are you adding a surfactant to the spray solution?


If he is using 41% glyphosate, he is using the surfactant that is already in the mix. There is no need to add a surfactant.
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