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Outdoor Kitchen Question: Built in burner for boiling crawfish

Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:11 am
Posted by ChasinTails
USA
Member since Oct 2017
130 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:11 am
I am getting ready to build a small cooking area on my patio.

I would like to have a single natural gas burner built in to the countertop that is placed low enough to be able to easily accommodate a crawfish pot, but also high enough to cook in a regular pot/pan. Have any of you done something like this? If so, what brand burner and countertop height did you use?

This is is the burner I am considering.

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Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2281 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:20 am to
A really cool feature would be a winch to lift it and dump on a nearby table

Let us know how it turns out and if you end up using it enough to justify!
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5803 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:37 am to
I built an outdoor kitchen a couple of years ago and considered doing this setup. I decided not to because I didn't want to waste valuable space for a crawfish burner. I also didn't want the mess that comes with dumping the pot etc all over my nice kitchen counters/floors. Getting the seasoned water stains out of a porous travertine deck gives me nightmares.

I stuck with the propane can and burner that I can move all over the yard, driveway, or wherever we happen to set up. It looks like a cool feature to show your friends, but I just couldn't see the practicality of it.

Also, natural gas is a different animal than propane when it comes to the pressure needed to get a large pot boiling.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18894 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:45 am to
quote:

natural gas is a different animal than propane when it comes to the pressure needed to get a large pot boiling.


This is the real issue.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:49 am to
Will you be able to cook in a pot (like a gumbo or jambalaya) and boil seafood with the same burner?

I agree with not wanting to take up space like someone said but what if you have a removable piece of countertop in that spot to use when not boiling/cooking. Either a piece of granite or if that’s too cumbersome, cut a piece of butcher block.

I like the idea you’re going after, just need to make sure you’ll use it. In my opinion, if you’re not set up to use something like that conveniently, it will be a waist.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14439 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:24 am to
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using it enough to justify!


This is why I doubt I’ll ever do it. Buuuut, I’d use the shite out of a range, so why not do both? Wouldn’t be that much more once already in on one
Posted by Notnac
Vidalia
Member since Nov 2020
881 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:32 am to
quote:

I stuck with the propane can and burner that I can move all over the yard,


I agree with this. If anything, build storage for your pot, burner etc... into the kitchen. Then just pull it and put it where you want. No mess when dumping etc...
Posted by ChasinTails
USA
Member since Oct 2017
130 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:39 am to
I appreciate all of your responses.

The mess created on the patio is a good point that I will consider.

quote:

Will you be able to cook in a pot (like a gumbo or jambalaya) and boil seafood with the same burner?


According to the Blaze salesman, this dual element burner will boil a seafood pot. 60,000 BTU's. Two, burners, two knobs to enable you to use a single burner for gumbos, jambalaya's, etc.. or both burners for boiling applications.

I do think I might just install it as my only burner and put it at normal counter height.

I could use it for smaller shrimp boils - 1 or 2 pounds at a time. Surely 60K BTU's will boil a smaller pot for shrimp.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:45 am to
I’d put one in, just use a standard counter height though don’t do it special. Maybe get one that’s recessed and has a cover so you can use the counter area if not using the burner.

My reasoning - My dad often boiled like 2 lbs of shrimp or crabs for dinner and always stunk up the house. So he had to do it outside and we got him a gas grill with a side burner. Worked great for smaller pots.
Posted by ScopeCreep
In the thick
Member since Jul 2016
637 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:47 am to
60k btu is fine for a smaller pot. But a 100qt pot with a sack of crawfish, that’s gonna be mighty slow. The high pressure banjo burner is use is something like 200k btu.
Posted by ChasinTails
USA
Member since Oct 2017
130 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 10:53 am to
Solid information, all. I appreciate it.
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1563 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

i stuck with the propane can and burner that I can move all over the yard, driveway, or wherever we happen to set up. It looks like a cool feature to show your friends, but I just couldn't see the practicality of it.


I’m building a home now and in the same boat. Using an extra drop for natural gas fire pit. Sticking with the propane for boiling so I can boil wherever I want
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
2917 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I could use it for smaller shrimp boils - 1 or 2 pounds at a time. Surely 60K BTU's will boil a smaller pot for shrimp.


At 60,000 BTUs, it should bring a 60 qt pot, 1/2 full of water (7.5 gallons), to boil in about one hour. For a 40 qt pot, it should take about 40 minutes.

EDIT: Since I got a downvote, I'll post the math.

60,000 btu/hr
7.5 gal. x 8.3 lb. x 130 deg. = 8,092.5 btu
60,000 x ~ .15 (efficiency) = ~ 9,000 btu/hr
8/9 x 60 min = 53 minutes
Because it's only approximate due to the efficiency number and other factors, I went with an hour.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Sticking with the propane for boiling so I can boil wherever I want


This is something else to consider with relation to the above quote. For a big boil (crawfish/crabs), that’s going to be a heavy pot and it would be in a kind of awkward position to get it out and go dump it if it’s in a cabinet like we’re discussing. Big heavy pot full of hot water that could slosh around no Bueno.
Posted by Piece
Member since Aug 2016
206 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 4:08 pm to
I'm getting ready to build an outdoor kitchen and looked into this as well. I decided to just go with an extra natural gas hookup with a quick connect and will probably get one of the Bayou Classic natural gas jet burners for boiling seafood. Figured it would be easier with the bigger pot and I could just pick it up when not using.
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2250 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 1:48 am to
I just ordered one of these Bayou Boiler. I put this RCS 8” door on the end of my outdoor kitchen and plan to put a valve with the quick connector he sent in the door. I spoke with the guy at bayou boiler before plumbing my house and he recommend having at least 3/4” gas line run to the valve and quick connect. I had my plumbers run a 1” main gas line in my house, he says I should have more than enough volume to run the burner.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9893 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:20 pm to
Ordering that exact burner for my outdoor kitchen but not for boiling. I am adding a natural gas hookup on the backside of my outdoor kitchen/pool area that hooks directly to my burner.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2785 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:35 pm to
Another option would be a jet burner or commercial wok setup. Think big arse flame that could double as a crawfish burner. If you use you wok half as much as we do, it would be totally worth it. We are looking at land for our next house and we will have a jet burner that will be a multitasker. Beer Brewing, Asian, boiling, steak searing, ect... Worth a thought to justify a big arse burner. I will set mine at about 24" high. Just my 2 bits.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1389 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:10 am to
Any pictures of a jet burner? Sounds useful, thanks!
Posted by skeetandtrap
Houston
Member since Nov 2011
105 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:52 pm to
I have a natural gas line on my patio. I’ve rigged up a quick detach line and a wok burner. Works great for cooking crawfish. Takes a little bit longer than propane but not to much longer. I like not having to worry about filling up bottles, unlimited supply of NG.
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