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re: New speed queen overflows 1.5" drain

Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:17 am to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45815 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:17 am to
I agree with the others, the most likely cause is partially clogged drain line that is reducing flow rate when the machine starts pumping water. I would start by making sure the drain is clogg free.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14305 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:42 am to
The pump is so powerful I think I will end up having to replace it in the end. Can I transition to PVC from metal with proflex clamps?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25737 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

Try bending the end of your drill snake at a 20 degree angle so it scrapes the inside of the pipe instead of punching a 1/4” hole in any clogs when the snake is straight at the end


I am not saying that won't help in certain situations but when the snake spins it beats and scrapes the walls down the length of it. When you crank up the drill (or motor) the snake starts to look like a waveform.




Technically the tip is just for breaking through the clog or spinning into it and hooking into the mass to pull it out. The actual snake behind the tip is what really does the work of scraping the sides of the pipe. This is why when you have broken through and pulled out any nasty globs of hair and gungus you want to spin the drill fast and move the the snake in and out about a foot or so to scrape the walls clean down the length.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
25899 posts
Posted on 12/28/23 at 2:28 pm to
I had same issue with washer on a 1.5” line. First plumber tried to snake it from inside and couldn’t make it past p trap. Asked him to get on roof and go through vent stack. Said he couldnt for liability. What a crock of crap

Next plumber I called go on roof and worked his snake down and found severe roots in the drain line after the p trap. Ended up having to bust up concrete driveway and repair.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
2994 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:09 am to
Yes that would be a suitable connection. Use a heavy duty one with 4 bands. Aka heavy duty no-hub band.
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:28 am to
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I'd be weary of putting any back-pressure on the pump.


As long as there is some water flow through the pump [to keep it cool] there is no danger of causing damage to the pump.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14305 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:25 am to
Opened up wall a little. The pipe runs horizontal for a few feet until it connects to the sink drain. Can't get all the gunk out of the first elbow. Will try to remove the elbow as the whole pipe spins in the wall. Snaked it and did get the sink flowing better.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15128 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:43 am to
Since the plumbing is connected to the sink drain. You could use some pvc and a fernco fitting to make a water tight connection from the washing machine to the wall. Then when the washing machine drains any backup will be contained in the sink & it can drain at a rate the plumbing can handle.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14305 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 10:30 am to
That's a good point. Next plan is to remove the elbow closest to the wall being it's very narrow with stuff cake inside of it. Then build out from there. Or maybe there's some sort of brush I can put on my drill.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24798 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:39 pm to
Doesn't code call for 2" drain lines?
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14305 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 7:04 pm to
On a new house. Didn't always be that way. House is 50 years old. When they come out with new codes you don't have to go update everything. I did get it fixed. Cut the horizontal 1.5 pipe with a reciprocal saw and it was pretty clean past that point from my snake etc. used a proflex clamp and transitioned to 2" PVC trap and drain. Seems to be fine now.

The drain where it connects to the tee behind the sink seems to be 2". That tee has a 1.5" off to the left for the washer. It runs through a stud also. Would be a much bigger job to remove that tee and replace the pipe through the wall. Just need to test heavy duty cycles which pump more water out during the rinse and spin phase.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 7:09 pm
Posted by Tiger2375
Member since Sep 2019
272 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:16 am to
I bought the Maytag commercial washer and when I put it in I damn near flooded my house. It pushed so much water through the drain pipe it just came gushing out. My old washer used far less water so I never had this problem. I just had to get my pipes cleaned out. Haven’t had an issue since.
Posted by PSU2LSU
Oxford MS
Member since Apr 2011
3145 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:43 am to
Speed Queen makes an adapter for this situation. It's just a rubber piece that goes into the pipe and your discharge hose attaches to it. I had the a similar problem and it solved mine. Although I didn't have water pouring out, just some suds coming up back through the pipe and making the floor wet.

Hose Adapter 36878


This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 7:46 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23756 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:10 pm to
I had the exact same issue whe we installed the Speed Queen. Those crappy new age machines that use fairy dust and hope to clean clothes also clog the pipes. Have it snaked out once and the water that the new machine uses will keep it clean.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14305 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:18 pm to
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Hose Adapter 36878


Came with the machine.

Everything working well now after replacing with PVC. The elbows were really reduced in diameter with hard stuff caked on them. Snaked the whole thing and it is flowing well now.
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