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My first summer with zoysia

Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:37 pm
Posted by contraryman
Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:37 pm
Since last summers chinch bug problem, the zoysia is growing in nicely. (Resodded in October). Easy care and not much fertilizer needed. I took over the lawn again from the company that was doing it. In part that they totally missed he bugs.

But holy shite! It produces an unbelievable amount of clippings. If I would have known this, I would have selected centipede. Every week I cut it and it produces at least two bags of clippings. It takes forever to blow and collect them. Also, I am not cutting at the lowest mower setting. I cut at 4 on a zero turn snapper.

Anyone have any experience with this?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:48 pm to
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But holy shite! It produces an unbelievable amount of clippings. If I would have known this, I would have selected centipede. Every week I cut it and it produces at least two bags of clippings. It takes forever to blow and collect them. Also, I am not cutting at the lowest mower setting. I cut at 4 on a zero turn snapper.


This means you are violating the 1/3 rule. You need to cut more often. I cut my Bermuda every 3 days...
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2035 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 9:54 pm to
Ain’t nobody got time fo dat! Rip it out and start over.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15678 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 10:29 pm to
I went out of town so mine got pretty high. I had to cut it and one height and then do it again on a lower setting. That shite is dense.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57004 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:13 am to
Can’t mulch?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22449 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:54 am to
Yes zoysia is a very thick grass, that’s just the way it is.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20095 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:13 am to
why not mulch the clippings? Save yourself time and it provides free fertilizer to keep the grass healthier.

You may need to mow more often but that is actually much better for the grass as it will promote lateral growth making the turf thicker and hardier.

Bagging clippings should really be avoided unless dealing with diseased grass.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8155 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:16 am to
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I cut my Bermuda every 3 days...


You retired and live in an HOA?
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:51 am to
New zoysia owner here as well.

At my old house, I rarely bagged (St Augustine), however apparently bagging is recommended for Zoysia because it’s gets so thick and thatch can become a problem.

That said, I still only bag probably every third mow, and mulch the other two.

So far so good. Very thick, very lush. Letting it get a little longer now that we’re in the dry months
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
11166 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:53 am to
Can’t mulch. Creates a heavy thatch. Mine is just planted and I can see the thatch. I cut at 1.75” with a reel mower once a week and bag all clippings. Looks great though
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20095 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:40 am to
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Can’t mulch. Creates a heavy thatch. Mine is just planted and I can see the thatch. I cut at 1.75” with a reel mower once a week and bag all clippings. Looks great though


Yeah, you would need to mow about every 3 days to keep clippings small enough. Grass shouldn't produce harmful thatch as long as mow rates and microbial activity are optimal.

Fungicides and herbicides can kill off the microbial activity. When that happens, there isn't enough microbial activity to break down the clippings fast enough to keep up.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:59 am to
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You retired and live in an HOA?


Nope lol. Your yard is the 1st thing anyone judges you on if they are coming over to your house.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:05 am to
I've had zoysia for 17 years at our house. I rarely bag and haven't had any problems with thatch. Cut it once a week with the mower set to mulch, and that's it. Bag it once or twice a cutting season.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:10 am to
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rarely bag and haven't had any problems with thatch. Cut it once a week with the mower set to mulch, and that's it. Bag it once or twice a cutting season.


The key here is having a DECENT mulching mower. If you’re using a Costco Craftsman mower yeah it’s not going to mulch and will cause a thatch problem. If your mower is a proper mulching mower then the clippings are so small it does not increase thatch.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:13 am to
I have a Cub Cadet lawn tractor with mulching blades on it. I use a Troy Bilt with a Honda engine for places I can't get to with the lawn tractor. It just has a regular blade on it though.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:14 am to
Does anyone cut their Palisades Zoysia low with a reel mower? I try to cut it low with my traditional mower but it basically scalps it even cutting it twice a week. Thinking about getting a McLane.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:16 am to
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Does anyone cut their Palisades Zoysia low with a reel mower? I try to cut it low with my traditional mower but it basically scalps it even cutting it twice a week. Thinking about getting a McLane.


Does it scalp evenly or in certain spots?
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:16 am to
You need to cut it more during peak growing time of the summer. I wouldn't bag it either if you are cutting more because you'll have smaller clippings that break down faster.
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:18 am to
Scalping is easy to do with a rotary mower. You probably need to bring in some sand to fill in some low spots.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:31 am to
It’s certain areas. It’s only about 5 months old. It probably needs to be leveled. We brought a lot of fill in and it’s probably settling differently. Can you cut under 1” with a rotary mower? I want it to be like a fairway. I don’t care if I’ve got to cut it twice a week.
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