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My attic hit 150F today

Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:15 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81720 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:15 pm
There is zero ventilation currently and I cannot imagine 150F is good for the roof or anything that is stored up there. Do those whirlybird vents really help? Really just looking for a low-ish cost way to get some air flowing.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57968 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:37 pm to
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There is zero ventilation currently
do you not have soffit vents?

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whirlybird vents really help?
ugh yes....
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
17028 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:44 pm to
How much do whirlybirds cost to install?
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
993 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:48 pm to
Get an exhaust fan. It's the only way to really move any air around.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17796 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:08 pm to
Costs can vary a lot, sure some guy with a sawzall and basic tools would do it cheap but I think a roofer would charge a few hundred per. Whatever you do, first make sure you have proper soffit vents, there's a right way of handling this and if you cut corners you'll be worse off down the road.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:17 pm to
I added two vents a little over a year ago and paid Garcia $1500 to do it,

My attic now runs 10 degrees above the outside temps. I also have ridge vents and ample soffit vents. The whirlybirds were added because the ridge vents weren’t cutting it
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11503 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:13 pm to
I added two vents a little over a year ago and paid Garcia $1500 to do it,
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Damn that seems high!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66803 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:23 pm to
The whirlybirds work well. The best thing is a thermostat controlled exhaust fan.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6976 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:43 pm to
If this was the OT I’d comment on a way to get that job done plus benefits.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:49 pm to
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I added two vents a little over a year ago and paid Garcia $1500 to do it, -- Damn that seems high


I got three quotes that were all within $100 of each other.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:54 pm to
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If this was the OT I’d comment on a way to get that job done plus benefits

The only thing Garcia DID was on the contract. I kinda felt screwed, but that was just because of the $1500 cost. (Powered vents were $1800 and that didn’t include the electric hookup)
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4888 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 6:21 am to
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Damn that seems high!



It is high. Absolutely get multiple quotes when doing add ons to a pre-existing roof.

Garcia subs out all of it's labor and then tacks on a grotesque profit margin to whatever the Sub charges.

Typically, you can find a good bit cheaper. I'd suggest buying your own equipment and subbing out install only. Will save you profit margins on purchase and give you some credit card pernts.

Attic fans/vents/etc only work as good as the ventilation allows. No soffit fents means that you're not going to get much movement. You'll get some but not much. Also, if you have ridgevents, make sure who ever installs your whirly birds doesn't put them too close to the ridges or you'll create a reversal and suck hotter air into the attic.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 7:19 am to
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It is high. Absolutely get multiple quotes when doing add ons to a pre-existing roof.



I don’t disagree that it was more than I thought it should be but…

quote:

I got three quotes that were all within $100 of each other.
Posted by mrservon
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
465 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:39 am to
Wouldn't the ridge vents & whirly birds work against one another?

Also, has anyone tried that heat guard barrier film? Seems to me like that wouldn't do very much.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:49 am to
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Wouldn't the ridge vents & whirly birds work against one another?

Also, has anyone tried that heat guard barrier film? Seems to me like that wouldn't do very much.


I've installed the radiant barier on 75% of the attic as well, allowing it to vent towards the upper reaches of the roof. I think it has helped some, but hard to tell. I was hampered by the shape of my "Acadian" style roof. Most of the houses that were built around BR in the late 90s - 2000s were these high pitched hip roofs. I can dig up my thread about the journey for the full details.

But most of my living area of the house was trying to vent through about 6' of ridge vent. I added the silver radiant barrier, and I think it improved some solar impact, but still not exhausting enough heat through that little slit. I talked to the roofing companies, and they claimed they successfully mixed the two despite the conventional wisdom of cross flow. I rolled the dice, figuring if it were to be an issue, I'd seal off the ridge vents somehow.

After they put the whirlybirds in, my house was immediately more comfortable. I went up a few times with incense in 100F afternoons to check for performance. I could find zero evidence of any cross flow following the smoke. Smoke below the level of the whirlybirds went out the whirlybirds (FAST) and smoke above the whirlybirds went up the ridge vent opening.

My understanding would be that hot air is rising with such force, it isn't going to somehow suck rising hot air from outside the attic, through the reverse direction of a ridge vent and up out the whirlybird. Maybe in the right conditions, with enough suction it would. They claim the powered vents can cause enough suction to do that... I dunno.

All I know is my attic went from melting your face like the ending of Raiders of the Lost Arc to being right at 10 degrees over outside temps even in full sun. The attic breathes now.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:59 am to
Those whirly birds will be gone after the first hurricane.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6617 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:05 am to
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Those whirly birds will be gone after the first hurricane.



They're reinforced, braced, and 3rd-party certified on my new Fortified Roof.

We shall see.

The worst part of the $1500 was I ended up having an entire new roof put on in March of this year.
Posted by failuretocommunicate
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
1095 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 12:32 pm to
Following this thread.....

Added a metal roof to a renovation project house recently. No ridge vent, and only small gable vents currently. The attic is unbearably hot and we recently added blown in (pink stuff) attic insulation on the ceiling joists. It has helped the HVAC keep up inside of the house but the attic still is super hot.

Wondering if fan blown gable vents would be the solution, spray foaming the metal/rafters or installing whirly birds (although the metal guy is hesitant in cutting into the roof due to possible future leaks) might be the solution.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted by done dancing
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2016
206 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 8:52 pm to
Electric fans/exhaust will ALWAYS burn up eventually and dont move air any better than turbines. Get good turbines with metal ball bearings so at a high spin rate they won't melt from the heat. A good roofer will measure the roof and place the correct number of turbines. It took 150 mph sustained winds and 190 mph wind gusts to pull one of my four turbines off of the base. Ridge vents are not useful for this climate but builders install them. If you have vented soffets then turbines will lower your attic by 30 to 40 degrees. Ridge vents won't matter. My dad was in mechanical refrigeration or as the old guys said, a sheet metal man.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3222 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:23 pm to
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Ridge vents won't matter.


I've been wondering how well they actually work. I just assumed they must work since so many people install them. Its odd for air to have to go slightly down before leaving the ridge. If past experiences tell me anything its that just because a lot of people do something then it doesn't always mean its a useful something.
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