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Mold in HVAC ducts
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:47 pm
Our HVAC technician said we have mold in the ducts. Our ducts have fiberglass on the inside, I believe, which he said has collected condensation and promoted mold growth. The mold has reached the vent in the living room.
We are being offered two options, one to install UV lights in the system to kill mold. This will cost about $2000. This is a relatively new system. The lights have a year warranty, and cost about $300 to relace. Not sure how many bulbs there would be. The other is to replace the old ducts with new, better ones that have the metal on the inside. This will cost about $6800. We have 15 vents to replace.
Do these sound reasonable? Opinions from the experts on the best option? My first reaction was replacement, but the expense is not trivial for us. Will the light system control the problem? TIA
We are being offered two options, one to install UV lights in the system to kill mold. This will cost about $2000. This is a relatively new system. The lights have a year warranty, and cost about $300 to relace. Not sure how many bulbs there would be. The other is to replace the old ducts with new, better ones that have the metal on the inside. This will cost about $6800. We have 15 vents to replace.
Do these sound reasonable? Opinions from the experts on the best option? My first reaction was replacement, but the expense is not trivial for us. Will the light system control the problem? TIA
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:50 pm to Kimist
Get a second opinion. some of these guys are full of shite.
How does he know it is mold? Did he send it to a lab?
Where are you located?
How does he know it is mold? Did he send it to a lab?
Where are you located?
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:51 pm to Kimist
That sounds insane that your house is staying so humid. Did they fix that problem already? Mold doesn’t grow without humidity over a certain percentage. I want to say 70%
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:52 pm to austin2015
This guy is right. My wife panicked about mold in our last house. It was just dust from an old house. Had it tested.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:52 pm to Kimist
Also, will probably get better/less bullshite answers by posting this on the Home/Garden Board.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:53 pm to Kimist
$6,800 for new ductwork is ridiculously high. Buy the ducts and do it yourself with the help of YouTube.
I added ductwork to a bathroom that didn’t have it previously once and it was simple. I even had to cut a hole into the system to access the air supply. I’m a DIYer and with youtube’s help I was finished in about an hour. Spend a day in your attic doing this yourself while it’s still cool out.
I added ductwork to a bathroom that didn’t have it previously once and it was simple. I even had to cut a hole into the system to access the air supply. I’m a DIYer and with youtube’s help I was finished in about an hour. Spend a day in your attic doing this yourself while it’s still cool out.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:53 pm to Kimist
Better be safe than sorry and just burn the house down and start over.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 12:55 pm to Kimist
$6,800 for duct work is crazy high.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:02 pm to Kimist
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This will cost about $6800
Get a second opinion. Mold comes from condensation, normally gaps in the ductwork. Cheaper to fix the cause and replace the duct, but you might only need to replace a little bit of ductwork
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:03 pm to Kimist
What does your husband have to say about this?
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:10 pm to Smoke7024
I work in the HVAC industry. The UV lights will not kill the existing mold in your ductwork. Inorder for the lights to kill mold, the light has to reach the mold. $6800 for metal ductwork is about right, as there is a lot more labor involved on metal ductwork as opposed to flex duct. If you do have mold, that means even if they fix the duct, it will come back if you don't find out why you are having humidity issues. One of the most important aspects of a HVAC system is to control humidity. Sounds like you either have a incorrectly sized system or you have airflow issues. You may also look into adding a whole house dehumidifier.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:15 pm to Kimist
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mold in the ducts
rip baw
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:39 pm to Kimist
Latest and probably the greatest HVAC company rip off. You have officially been conned. Spray some Lysol in the ductwork and call it fixed.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:50 pm to Kimist
I'm a hvac manager and a uv light system runs $350-$500. If you pay $2000 u have been ripped off.Replace your duct system using flex by john manfied that has anti-microbil coating inside the area where air flows. If you have mold ( and no hvac tech should ever use that word) in your suppky duct then the spores have been distributed throughout your house. Get a 2nd op from someone that uses a camera system and make sure you see the bacteria growth. IAQ products are extremely helpful but can also be the biggest scam in the industry.
15 vents for 6800? I hope that comes with a huge jar of k-y lube because thats whats happening to you. Someone is goughing the heck out of you. 15 lines should run $4500 to 5000 using antimicrobial ductwork that is class a mastic sealed.
Here is another antimicrobial duct prouct.
LINK
15 vents for 6800? I hope that comes with a huge jar of k-y lube because thats whats happening to you. Someone is goughing the heck out of you. 15 lines should run $4500 to 5000 using antimicrobial ductwork that is class a mastic sealed.
Here is another antimicrobial duct prouct.
LINK
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:55 pm to SOSFAN
I’m tired of seeing ductwork designed for the northeast used in the south. Flex duct. Toss it out every so many years.
Manual J to size your system. Manual D for duct work.
Manual J to size your system. Manual D for duct work.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 1:59 pm to ktfsh71
Hardly anyone uses hardpipe ductwork anymore. You can get flex with mast seal with a 10 year warranty with the right company. You are 100% correct about the uv light not helping mold in ductwork. It can only neuter the dna of air coming across the bulb.
He would be better suited with an Air Scrubber for indoor air quality and its still less than 2000.
He would be better suited with an Air Scrubber for indoor air quality and its still less than 2000.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 2:02 pm to Koach K
Hardpipe insulation has to be replaced after time too. Price isnt worth it America is one of the last places that still uses ductwork. Minisplits with multiple heads is the way to go and is way more efficient.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 2:05 pm to Kimist
If you have flex duct check to see if the supports are compressing the insulation. This can cause cold spots and condensation which fosters mold growth.
Posted on 11/23/19 at 2:25 pm to Kimist
You'd better get a second opinion before doing anything to make sure it really is mold and not just some guy trying to make a fast buck. Once that house has black mold on its record, you might have a problem selling it. They list it on the mandatory disclosure form for a reason and you don't want to have to check that box saying you've ever had work done that is considered mold remediation when you might not even have mold in the first place.
Also, if it is mold, that shite's been blown all through your house. A mold remediation professional can tell you if it is mold in the first place, find out where it's at if it is, why you have it, and how you're gonna get rid of it. Many HVAC/R engineers also are licensed to do mold remediation, as mold is a humidity issue and humidity control is a huge part of HVAC work, so mold remediation and real competent HVAC work go hand in hand. They're not cheap, though. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide if you want to spend that money to find out why your house is sick.
Don't take Johnny Ductwork's word that his special lightbulb is going to solve your problem. He's Johnny Ductwork. All he wants to do is sell you new duct and every product he can install in that duct that won't do shite to identify and solve your core humidity issues (which is what mold problems indicate). Now, that humidity might be a whole-house problem or it might just be a leaky ductwork in the winter problem. The mold remediation specialist/HVAC engineer (PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, not a tech) can tell you exactly what kind of humidity issue you're having. I guarantee you that Johnny Ductwork's going to tell you it's leaky duct, but hey, that's what makes his kids real happy at Christmas.
Finally, does that $6500 bill for ductwork include tasteful professional photography of him fricking you in the arse so you can fondly remember it for years to come? If he's going to supply hard wrapped mastic sealed duct to every register, MAYBE. The extent of the rigid ductwork makes a big difference on whether or not that price is good, but that number seems high if your house is normal sized and has decent access and room to perform the work in the attic. It still doesn't help you if the ductwork isn't the source of your problem, though.
Also, if it is mold, that shite's been blown all through your house. A mold remediation professional can tell you if it is mold in the first place, find out where it's at if it is, why you have it, and how you're gonna get rid of it. Many HVAC/R engineers also are licensed to do mold remediation, as mold is a humidity issue and humidity control is a huge part of HVAC work, so mold remediation and real competent HVAC work go hand in hand. They're not cheap, though. Ultimately, it's up to you to decide if you want to spend that money to find out why your house is sick.
Don't take Johnny Ductwork's word that his special lightbulb is going to solve your problem. He's Johnny Ductwork. All he wants to do is sell you new duct and every product he can install in that duct that won't do shite to identify and solve your core humidity issues (which is what mold problems indicate). Now, that humidity might be a whole-house problem or it might just be a leaky ductwork in the winter problem. The mold remediation specialist/HVAC engineer (PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, not a tech) can tell you exactly what kind of humidity issue you're having. I guarantee you that Johnny Ductwork's going to tell you it's leaky duct, but hey, that's what makes his kids real happy at Christmas.
Finally, does that $6500 bill for ductwork include tasteful professional photography of him fricking you in the arse so you can fondly remember it for years to come? If he's going to supply hard wrapped mastic sealed duct to every register, MAYBE. The extent of the rigid ductwork makes a big difference on whether or not that price is good, but that number seems high if your house is normal sized and has decent access and room to perform the work in the attic. It still doesn't help you if the ductwork isn't the source of your problem, though.
This post was edited on 11/23/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 11/23/19 at 3:32 pm to SOSFAN
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Hardpipe insulation has to be replaced after time too. Price isnt worth it America is one of the last places that still uses ductwork. Minisplits with multiple heads is the way to go and is way more efficient.
Aren't minisplits more expensive?
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