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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:23 pm to
Yea I think you’re right on pot size. Guessing that’ll be the final up pot for that tree’s life ? Maybe a root prune in 5 years?
I don’t think I’m far from jumping my guava. That thing can suck a pot dryyyyy and goes from perfectly perky to droopy mess by the afternoon lol.

Yea I would love a winter not in the teens…just really screwy with all the plants..would love a normal flowering cycle for my deciduous fruit trees also.

And my poor Reed avocado despite my best efforts is so stressed by spring it drops all its leaves around flowering time, been in a holding pattern for 18 months on size. It’s finally pushing well again. I do think it’s the wrong variety for our climate though. My potted ones and the Maria black in ground I think will do substantially better.

Would love some star fruit this year, but any that set end up dropping, guessing the heat??
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 1:04 pm to
El Niño may provide a milder winter but right now my shite is critically dry. Like…water me now or I will die- dry.

I stuck a shovel in my shower drain catch bed and it was bone dry, powdery and crunchy. And that’s with it catching shower water twice a day. Back to the hose brigade. Looking ahead they are saying hot and dry for the foreseeable future
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:14 pm to
I had to start digging up plants and repotting them today, no choice. Only way I can keep them alive

Water hoses aren’t getting it done when the ground is completely desiccated. At least in a pot I can be sure the root ball is soaked
Posted by AyyyBaw
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:32 pm to
Thank you for the input. I might try to graft it if I can find some decent scions.

Not a tropical, but figured y’all might enjoy. Pics of a Noire de Barbentane fig I picked today along with fresh batch of muscadine jelly. Most of these muscadines were Ruby Crisp which is a red.






Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:35 pm to
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Yea I think you’re right on pot size. Guessing that’ll be the final up pot for that tree’s life ? Maybe a root prune in 5 years?


Alex Salazar of Tropical acres has said several times that 25g is the minimum size to grow mangos and 45g is the minimum "good" size. But yes, 45g is where I stop. Will grow until it needs root maintenance.

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I don’t think I’m far from jumping my guava. That thing can suck a pot dryyyyy and goes from perfectly perky to droopy mess by the afternoon lol.


They drink a ton of water. The fast rate of growth plus those soft matte papery leaves just plows through water. Highly recommend getting guava to 25g sooner rather than later just for the water stress. I have had trees put on an entire inch of trunk caliper in one year.

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Yea I would love a winter not in the teens…just really screwy with all the plants..would love a normal flowering cycle for my deciduous fruit trees also.

Amen. 7 years. We are due for it.

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And my poor Reed avocado despite my best efforts is so stressed by spring it drops all its leaves around flowering time, been in a holding pattern for 18 months on size. It’s finally pushing well again. I do think it’s the wrong variety for our climate though. My potted ones and the Maria black in ground I think will do substantially better.

Really excited to see how Maria Black performs. If I ever grow an avocado (doubtful) that's the one I will attempt.

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Would love some star fruit this year, but any that set end up dropping, guessing the heat??

Just wait a few weeks. When we get to September/October they are going to enter their fall flowering cycle and put on a bunch of fruit. Mine sets way more fruit in the fall than during the summer heat. I've got maybe 20 fruit on the tree from the summer cycle ripening now (which have been crazy sweet BTW), but I'm expecting closer to 75-100 fruit from the fall cycle. Your tree is probably just too new to really set a good summer crop yet. Keep it watered every day if you're not already. Will help with fruit retention.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:38 pm to
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Noire de Barbentane

Now that's a nice fig!
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/11/26 at 8:51 pm to
First ruby supreme of the year. Wasn't really ready to come off but was softening and had some decay on the stylar end. Decided to pick it instead of letting it rot. As expected, not great. The first ones never are. Interestingly there was actually some sweetness here. In years past where I didn't thin the fruit, the early ones had zero sweetness. Hoping it's a sign of things to come.





Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 5:51 am to
My gawd that thing is huge.


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As expected, not great. The first ones never are. Interestingly there was actually some sweetness here. In years past where I didn't thin the fruit, the early ones had zero sweetness.


The one I picked kind of looked similar to yours on the inside. A little lighter in color but the seeds look about the same. It was mealy and not much sweetness. I'm wondering if it was ripe enough for picking and just sucked because it's the first.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 9:35 am to
Kind of looks like Barbie Pink. It was both not ripe enough AND the early fruit suck anyway in my experience. They will improve significantly over the coming months.

In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, it seems like mine go from insipid to good almost overnight. I don't really remember there being a quality gradient where they slowly improve. I'll keep that in mind this year to see if that holds true.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:16 am to
banana patch 8/12
I’m having trouble keeping the two big ones hydrated in this dry stretch. I might need to run something over there on a timer.



They are both tall namwah I’m not sure I’ll need them both right there so I think I’m going to move one in the fall to a shadier spot and see if it fruits there. They are growing but it’s a lot of work right now.

Dwarf namwah de Tigerlaff in its spot for the rest of the year, I’m thinking I might choose a shadier spot in the spring for it as well. 50/50 sun or so


This post was edited on 8/12/26 at 10:17 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:37 am to
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AyyyBaw
this is pretty certainly wooly rose mallow (lasiocarpos) I’ve got sprouting from scavenged roots. I got these off 55 in ponchatoula and it was about 60/40 pink to white in the stand.



Leaves are like felt pads, completely different from the plants I grabbed a bunch of seeds from the other day. Pretty happy about that
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Dwarf namwah de Tigerlaff in its spot for the rest of the year,

Just don't let it freeze! It's honestly the best dessert banana we can pull off. Namwah is regarded as an extremely good banana even in south Florida. We are just lucky that it deals with the cold and stays small enough to wrap.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 2:22 pm to
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They are both tall namwah I’m not sure I’ll need them both right there so I think I’m going to move one in the fall to a shadier spot and see if it fruits there. They are growing but it’s a lot of work right now.


Mine are shaded after about 1 and they're doing great. I haven't had to water them yet this summer. The shade might be a good idea.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 6:41 pm to
Had one fall off into the bag when I bumped it. Good call on the bags Laff. Pretty good, probably should have left it on the counter for a day or two. Does the mealy texture go away if more ripe?




I really like that the peel is edible. I hate peeling fruit.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 8:52 pm to
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Had one fall off into the bag when I bumped it. Good call on the bags Laff. Pretty good, probably should have left it on the counter for a day or two. Does the mealy texture go away if more ripe?

Yes, will become more creamy. Put the next ones into a brown paper bag until they are yellow.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/12/26 at 10:06 pm to
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Mine are shaded after about 1 and they're doing great. I haven't had to water them yet this summer. The shade might be a good idea.


Mine is pretty much in the sun all day and I’m not watering it but maybe once every 3 days and it has been doing great.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/13/26 at 7:22 am to
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Yes, will become more creamy. Put the next ones into a brown paper bag until they are yellow.


Will do. My wife was not happy with the texture . She's pregnant right now and is going through the nausea stage. She immediately started gagging when she took a bite.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/13/26 at 12:57 pm to
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Will do. My wife was not happy with the texture . She's pregnant right now and is going through the nausea stage. She immediately started gagging when she took a bite.


I mean it probably did suck, but it's well known that Americans have a problem with soft fruit, especially ones with seeds. Americans prefer crisp acidic fruits that have been bred or engineered to be seedless. It's a real shame because some of the best tasting fruits on earth are soft and creamy: guava, atemoya, cherimola, custard apple, jackfruit, mamey, etc.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:10 am to
My buddy and his girlfriend were over on Tuesday. They are who got me into all this gardening stuff. They are very experienced. They found some Mealy bugs on a new desert rose that I had just bought from Home Depot. I figure they had it when I bought them. It was right beside my flamethrower palm and a couple of them had got on my flamethrower as well. They took alcohol and a Q-tip and applied to all they could find and then sprayed all the leaves and the plant with straight alcohol. That’s been about five days so I guess I’m gonna check it again today.

They looked around my pool area and didn’t see anymore. I think I need to do a better job of looking underneath the leaves of my plants. Every time they come over here, they find something that I had not seen.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:09 am to
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Mealy bugs

Good luck. The alcohol is just a temporary bandaid. Their eggs are in the soil and in every single nook and cranny on the plant. If you don't have imidacloprid for an eventual soil drench go ahead and buy it. Strongest concentration you can find.
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