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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by AyyyBaw
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:42 pm to
Native hibiscus likes a 30ish day cold stratification. Throw some seeds into some moist (not super wet) sand in a ziplock and put it in your fridge for a month then sow into some cells. Bet you’ll see some germination. Winter sowing can also work.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 8:42 pm to
right on
thanks!
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:52 pm to
Got the Chamaedorea radicalis palms planted into the landscape. Excited to see how these perform.





If they end up looking like the one I potted I will be very happy.



Also saved one in case the potted one doesn't survive the root prune. Cross your fingers for me.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:53 pm to
That looks great
What’s that blooming next to it
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 3:55 pm to
Thanks! That's a hydrangea and a variegated hydrangea.

Bonus orange hibiscus going crazy:

This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 4:33 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 5:28 pm to
You have the happiest potted plants I’ve ever seen. I should be on a watchlist for all the hibiscus plants I’ve killed
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 7:29 pm to
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You have the happiest potted plants I’ve ever seen. I should be on a watchlist for all the hibiscus plants I’ve killed



My Hibiscus are going nuts right now. Im pulling off 25 spent flowers a day and they just keep rolling


Looks great laff


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 8:42 pm to
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You have the happiest potted plants I’ve ever seen. I should be on a watchlist for all the hibiscus plants I’ve killed

Thanks. It took years of failure, diligent study, and tutelage from Okinawan master gardeners drawing on three centuries of... wait no.

Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 9:37 pm to


I’m about over it. The reverse zone pushing is fun; until it isn’t with apples in Florida. Year three with Anna and Golden Dorsett Apple trees. Anna holds up reasonably well. The Dorsett is extremely susceptible to Bitter Rot. We’ve had small amounts of rainfall the past two days and it was enough to trigger the fungus. They’ve looked great until now with regular applications of Bonide Orchard Spray. I’ve not had a single edible fruit from Dorsett. Only a few from Anna. The trouble is it’s an all or nothing proposition. One pollinates the other. I don’t want to use or invest in systemics when I can buy perfectly good and better tasting apples at the market. You can’t spray most fungicides if the temps are above 85; that’s definitely a problem here. I have a feeling these two are getting yanked this Fall.

On the bright side. I tried a new mango (for me) that’s instantly in my Top 10.



Philippine/Carabao is a smaller mango. The fruit to seed ratio is very good. You’ve got to let them ripen until it’s easily pliable and the skin should be mostly yellow. If you do; you’ll be greeted with an excellent dessert mango. Not the most complex flavor profile; but; sweet and decadent.



Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:08 pm to
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The reverse zone pushing is fun; until it isn’t

I salute you for trying. Reverse pushing is much harder than regular pushing. My nectaplum is trying to get fungus so bad and it's only a constant deluge of spray that keeps it from succumbing. I'm not kidding when I say my in-ground mango is easier to grow than the nectaplum. I also support your market availability observation. I have a hard rule that I do not grow anything if it's normally available at the store and good. For example I'll grow cara cara navel oranges but not regular navels because I can get the latter year round and they are excellent. None of the southern low chill apple cultivars hold a candle to northern varieties.

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new mango (for me) that’s instantly in my Top 10.


Man, this is why you can't let anyone tell you what is good and what isn't. I would put Phillipine/Carabao in my bottom 5 easily. I'd rather have a Tommy. I'm glad you dig them!
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 10:09 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 10:25 pm to
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I would put Phillipine/Carabao in my bottom 5 easily.


My local mango farm is owned by the sweetest Thai family. The matriarch of the family pulled me aside and gave me the rundown for a perfect Carabao mango. Let it ripen to full yellow with almost no green. The skin should yield when pressed. Almost like Ataulfo. It should smell sweet. Like I said; not that complex. Super sweet and enjoyable with a bit of fiber around the seed. I’m here for it. This one was at least 20 Brix and juicy AF. Not something I can do everyday; but, an enjoyable ride especially for an early season mango.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:19 am to
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Year three with Anna and Golden Dorsett Apple trees.
before you give up maybe pull the dorsett and plant a crabapple next to the Anna. Worst outcome is that you’ll get crabapples which make an excellent jelly
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 1:18 pm to
Anyone doing anything to help their mango/avocados with all the rain over the next week?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:17 pm to
I have been hammering with copper, daconil, and mancozeb on a rotating basis daily. Some trees are still getting fungal spots.

This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 6:06 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 5:38 pm to
my pears are covered in mealy bugs…fricking gross. I’m about to cut those pieces of shite down. We don’t eat them anyway
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 6:01 pm to
I hate pears and support you killing them. But if you decide to try to kill the infestation don't waste any time with ineffective remedies. Just use imidacloprid and be done with it.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:01 pm to
PSA: Serendib Farms is shipping orange sherbet mangos now. 10lbs is $115 shipped. If you've never had orange sherbet it's truly one of the best in the world. Serendib is also well known for shipping quality properly picked fruit.

ETA: if you'll pay $16/lb for ribeye, you owe it to yourself to try these mangos.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 11:32 pm
Posted by AyyyBaw
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:04 am to
FYI to anyone interested. Marta at Really Good Plants is having her summer scion sale on June 1st. I plan on rooting the following mulberries: black prince, tice, Riley’s chicken claw, and maple leaf and grafting Australian green and DMOR9. I have a 4’ potted seedling loquat that I’ll be grafting with big Jim white and argelino. I’ll also be trying to graft Izu, giant hana fuyu, and tam kom onto American persimmon rootstock. I’m thinking I’ll lateral graft most of these and possibly t-bud of chip bud a few too.

My grafted Suebelle white sapote is finally showing signs of new growth 2 months after transplanting into a pot. My big Jim loquat started pushing new growth about a week after planting in ground. Also have a couple loquat air layers and about 15 fig air layers going. New to me fig cuttings showing roots - col. littman’s black cross and Sal’s el. It’s been a fun past few months.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 6:55 am to
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Marta at Really Good Plants
wow that’s a great resource. Tons of good info and techniques there
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 7:45 am to
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DMOR9

Have been looking into this one a lot recently. I wish I had more open space with sun. Marta is amazing. Great channel and website.

Great loquat selections. If you're ever interested in Golden Nugget, Oliver, Vista White, Lara Honeyquat, or Spring Flower scions let me know. Happy to let you come take some bud wood.

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My grafted Suebelle white sapote is finally showing signs of new growth 2 months after transplanting into a pot.

It's hard for me to figure out white sapote. Everyone says they are super easy and tough as nails. But when I repotted mine last year it dropped every single leaf and looked dead for a month. Now it's pushing tons of growth, but gets fungal damage on all the leaves after about a month. I've also seen trees smaller than mine holding fruit in pots and mine drops all fruit. From what I've read Suebelle seems to need longer to hold fruit than other types and benefits from having another variety grafted onto it to improve pollination. Once I get the tree looking consistently healthy I'll graft something else onto it.





Colonel Littman's Black Cross is an elite fig. Great choice!
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 7:46 am
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