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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:26 pm to
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How long did it take yours to get that big? I swear mine hasn't grown an inch in 2 months. Looks healthy, though.

I bought it (Makok) as a 15g one year ago. It is now a solid 25g tree. Sapodillas are extremely slow growers, especially the dwarf varieties of Silas Wood and Makok. Once it gets some size it will then grow more rapidly.

I got my Silas Wood a year and a half ago as a 3g. Hold on I'll take a pic so you can see what to expect.

Here's Makok as a 15g April 2025 and today as a 25g with fruit.





Here's Silas Wood in December 2024 as a 3g and today as a 20g:





This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:57 pm to
Dang those look awesome! I like how the Silas is pruned. I was worried it was going to take 5 years for this tree to get fun lol
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:10 pm to
Thanks! Which variety do you have? Grafted Silas Wood won't be anywhere near 5 years to fruit. More like 2. Insanely productive tree. Grafted Makok definitely takes a little longer. Probably more like 3-4 years.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:18 pm to
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Grafted Silas Wood


I have one of these. It had a fruit on it when I got it but I cut that off.

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Insanely productive tree.


Idk if I even like sapodilla but this gets me really excited.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:19 pm to
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Idk if I even like sapodilla


It’s unique. Not for everyone. Custardy brown sugar with hints of cinnamon/anise. Much better refrigerated IMHO. My friend has an Alano variety. Super productive. Can’t possibly eat all the fruit it produces. It’s very popular with Thai, Vietnamese and Indonesian people.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:53 pm to
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I have one of these. It had a fruit on it when I got it but I cut that off.

Smart move. It's all an investment.

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Idk if I even like sapodilla

There are only 2 kinds of people I've ever met who don't like sapodilla. People who think they are too sweet and people who have only had seedling varieties and old cultivars like Brown Sugar that are very gritty.

Alano, Hasya, Moreno, Molix, Tikal, Silas Wood, and Makok are all fire. Never had a butterscotch but people say it's fantastic and a poor producer.

If you have kids you won't be able to keep them off the tree. It's candy.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:31 am to


Looks like the Lowe’s in Covington will be getting the Variegated Pink Nono Musa plants soon. They sold out here in FL in a matter of hours. I planted two in the ground back in December. Both got hammered by the 27-28 degree freeze and have bounced back. Giving me a new leaf about every other week currently. Both even have pups now. So odds are they’ll hold up in pots for sure and probably do well in ground even in the southernmost parts of Louisiana.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:42 pm to
Costa Farms releases those to Lowe’s once a year I think. They sell out immediately

edit: captain obvious (me) missed that this is from costa farms’ IG account
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Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:59 pm to
my “tropical” orchard update

Barbados cherry looking pretty good, slow grower at the moment. It’s getting about a 1/4 day more shade than I had expected, oh well



Cherry of the Rio grande, planted yesterday. I had to get medieval to get all the rotten bark off of it…something I’d have never done before this thread. A little droopy this morning but should be ok. It’s in full sun



La guava della Casa di Tigerlaff, eccellente



Orange Frost satsuma, has doubled in size. Very vigorous thus far



Bumper satsuma, stuck in neutral. Zero new growth but looks fine. Not sure what’s going on


Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:04 pm to
They are cool little trees. I have one that gets brutal intense full sun and another sort of tucked into a corner near my home that gets some shade. The one with some shade is doing marginally better than the other; but, both are growing faster than any banana tree I’ve encountered. I fully expect them to be 6 or more feet tall by the the end of the year.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
I've seen the pink nono do great in pots. I'm holding out for a Musa Florida. Thanks for posting this I know some people who will be interested.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:03 pm to
Those are looking great cgrand. That Rio Grande may need some shade cloth for a week or 2 after bare rooting. Mine was fine after 2 weeks and I took the shade cloth off.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:09 pm to
First mangos and white sapote of the year arrived. Mangos are from Mina Iskandar and sapotes are from Serendib Farms. The sapotes are Redland variety. We got the following mango varieties:

Carrie
Chloe
Duncan
Dupuis Saigon
Edward
Fruit Punch
Guava (Sein ta lone)
Phillipine




I've had all these before except Dupuis Saigon and Chloe. I think Chloe may be Iskandar's seedling fruit. Never heard of it before. Will post a report on each as they ripen to compare.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:04 pm to
Yeesh $20/mango!

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:18 pm to
Full credit to her; these look good so she’s at least letting them ripen a bit or harvesting at a very mature green.

Some outfits harvest way too early. Like immature green. I’ve had some take 12-15 or more days to ripen on the counter.

I think Chloe is a seedling, I don’t think I’ve had either Guava and Dupuis.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:20 pm to
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I'm holding out for a Musa Florida


The price is still high. I know where a couple of 3-4 footers are; but, she’s asking $200 a piece. I think someone like Costa doing tissue culture will make them affordable in the near future.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 6:28 am to
I only buy from Mina and Tropical Acres. They are the only ones sending 100% prime fruit. Tried about 8 other vendors over the last couple of years and got a lot of way too early fruit and way too late fruit.

Guava is an amazing mango. My two favorite fruits are guava and mango. This is the perfect combination of the two. If it wasn't such a big tree I would grow it. I will probably graft a branch into my Pickering or Cecilove one day.
Posted by DickTater
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 11:55 am to
When you say thin guava to one per branch..you mean one to each branch off of a lateral scaffold branch?
I’m assuming bc I only have about 5-6 major scaffolds.

Mine is definitely loaded down with fruitlets. Don’t want so-so fruit.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 2:39 pm to
New trees in the ground. Was hoping to get this little horse trade done earlier in the year; but, the freeze set this back a bit.

A friend of mine in Sarasota went down the rabbit hole of boutique and rare bananas a few years back. He’s got two dozen different varieties at his place. He agreed to separate some out of his patches for me. Handed me two monsters today..



First up is Hua Moa…. It’s from Polynesia. Popular in Hawaii. The large bananas grow to as much as 10 inches long and 4 inches thick weighing as much as a pound each. Creamy and sweet; people treat them more like a plantain than a banana. Good for frying or cooking as well as eating out of hand.




Then the other side of the spectrum.

The other is Pitogo. It’s from the Phillipines and known for its small, round, to tear-drop shape and creamy texture. The fruit is roughly the size of a golf ball with berry notes.



This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 2:41 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:05 pm to
all this banana talk has got me excited for my planned plot. it is on the downslope of a low ridge that should catch rainwater pretty well. it's native clay soil but its not very fat, i can amend it pretty easily i think. its currently under a tarp until the fall to kill some vines off. i'm going to get rid of the pine tree



about a 20' diameter circle so 300sf or so. what should i amend it with other than compost? do you think fall will be ok to plant? i would get one of those popup greenhouses to cover this winter
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 3:11 pm
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