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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:37 pm to
My experience has been the bananas are very resilient. I think there’s nothing they enjoy more than a constant feeding of compost and chicken manure. Lots of sunlight and regular watering usually equal success.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 3:45 pm to
i've got a pretty big pile of composted cow manure, its got my garden supercharged. i'll plan on a big top dressing with that. i'm hoping the slope to drain will help with the watering
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:53 pm to
My desert roses are blowing up right now. I have 5 of them and they are all doing very well right now.


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

When you say thin guava to one per branch..you mean one to each branch off of a lateral scaffold branch?
I’m assuming bc I only have about 5-6 major scaffolds.

Yes, that's what I'm trying this year.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 4:59 pm to
Hua moa and pitogo are DEFINITELY some boutique bananas. Very cool! That pitogo rack looks very similar to veinte cohol.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:03 pm to
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what should i amend it with other than compost? do you think fall will be ok to plant? i would get one of those popup greenhouses to cover this winter


Why not plant now? I would not plant bananas in the fall. They completely stop growing at 60-65F and may not sufficiently establish before winter freezes. If you have to wait until fall, start them in pots and overwinter.

Just put compost at the base of each tree and chuck a handful of fertilizer at it every few weeks. They're not picky. Insanely aggressive growers.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 5:24 pm to
I need to give that solarization another few months the vines in there were noxious. I can always wait till spring
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 10:09 pm to
Upcoming Gary lectures on YouTube
Starts 11am CT on Saturdays:

May 9 GROWING PERSIMMONS & JUJUBES

May 16 GROWING APPLES & PEARS

May 23 THEIR SOIL IS KILLING YOUR PLANTS

May 30 EFFICIENT WATERING & FERTILIZING

LINK
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by audioguy
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:02 am to
Thanks for this. I definitely want to check out the Persimmon talk.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 8:27 am to
PSA: Bob Wells Nursery has grafted pawpaws back in stock. Allegheny, Potomac, KSU Atwood, and KSU Benson. These are perfect sized trees for planting. Big enough to be strong but not big enough that the taproot has curled in the pot. They are even grown in the proper tall pots for pawpaws. I grabbed a Benson and Atwood.

LINK

This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 3:40 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 10:16 am to
Rain knocked off the first couple of dwarf guavas that were ripening. Didn't have time to get sweet. It did however have a good bit of tartness which indicates they could be very good when mature. It's the insipid ones with no taste that are a bad sign. Still has the amazing tropical guava aroma, though.





Usually these are white or pink but I was lucky and got an orange one.
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 5:16 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 1:30 pm to
This has been fun as all hell to watch.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 2:54 pm to
So lucky man. That's awesome. My advice is to push that thing with a weekly liquid fertilizer high in potassium and keep it always well watered. That will speed up the ripening. You probabaly have enough time for it to mature before it stops growing in the winter. My rajapuri hasn't flowered yet and I'm running out of time.

Have you ever tasted namwah bananas?
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Have you ever tasted namwah bananas?


No I never had. Just grocery store bananas. Pretty excited about it.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:10 pm to
Dude you are in for a treat. You may know all of this already but let me give you some tips for how to harvest them.

The tree is done making leaves. The leaves it has are all that's available to make sugar for the fruit, so don't remove any leaves. Water, sun, fertilizer.

It's gonna take probably 4-5 months to reach ripeness. You will know it's time to cut the rack down when the bananas are filled out and don't have those ridges anymore AND you see the first one break color to yellow. If you leave them on the tree too long they will all split. It's better to harvest early than too late, so if it looks like they are filled out and starting to split, cut it down even if it hasn't broken color yet and hang it in the shade outdoors. A porch or garage is perfect. You can also remove individual hands of bananas from the rack if they are very far apart from end stage ripeness. In other words, if the bottom hands are ready and the top aren't you can cut off just the bottom. If it's a race against the clock and winter is imminent, tie a black trash bag over the rack and check them once per day.

Namwah is a thick sweet banana with fruity tones. You will immediately realize the difference. Let the individual fruits get as ripe as possible before eating. It's not like store grand nain bananas that turn to mush when they get brown. Let those suckers get brown with a little dark yellow before peeling them. The peel will look ugly and the fruit will be perfect.

Man I wish I was getting some namwahs this year. Only place I know to buy them is the tropical fruit market under the interstate at 812 N. Claiborne.

Good luck and godspeed!
This post was edited on 5/9/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

The tree is done making leaves. The leaves it has are all that's available to make sugar for the fruit, so don't remove any leaves. Water, sun, fertilizer.



This part worries me. It only has two shitty looking leaves on it. The pups around it look great, though.


quote:

It's gonna take probably 4-5 months to reach ripeness. You will know it's time to cut the rack down when the bananas are filled out and don't have those ridges anymore AND you see the first one break color to yellow. If you leave them on the tree too long they will all split. It's better to harvest early than too late, so if it looks like they are filled out and starting to split, cut it down even if it hasn't broken color yet and hang it in the shade outdoors. A porch or garage is perfect. You can also remove individual hands of bananas from the rack if they are very far apart from end stage ripeness. In other words, if the bottom hands are ready and the top aren't you can cut off just the bottom. If it's a race against the clock and winter is imminent, tie a black trash bag over the rack and check them once per day.


So cut them as soon as they look like they're even thinking about ripening, got it. I would have let them ripe on the tree if you hadn't said anything.


I'm pumped about this. Glad the tree set fruit. I've been pissed about my satsumas and oeaches not doing anything the last two years so itll be nice to have some fruit. Thanks!
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

This part worries me. It only has two shitty looking leaves on it. The pups around it look great, though.

In this case the fertilizer and water is even more important. The pups will feed the corm which will in turn feed the fruiting tree. But it's not as strong as the main psuedostem feeding itself. Do not remove or damage any pups. You need them soaking up as much sun as possible.

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So cut them as soon as they look like they're even thinking about ripening, got it. I would have let them ripe on the tree if you hadn't said anything.

Yes. The absolute perfect scenario would be to cut a full rack of plump filled out light green fruit with the bottommost fruit just breaking to yellow. All the rest happens off the tree.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:42 pm to
Redlands white sapote. Tastes like vanilla custard. Sometimes the skin is bitter and sometimes no flavor. I usually do not eat the skin. Saving seeds to trial them out in zone 9a. White sapote is surprisingly cold hardy.



Guava / Sein ta Lone mango. Last year the guava mango I had tasted and smelled exactly like a ripe guava. This one weirdly did not smell like anything but somehow tasted like a guava smells, not like a guava tastes. Very, very sweet. The seed is often polyembryonic so I'll probably germinate it just for the hell of it. No chance of ever raising a seedling to fruiting age.





One trillion Jamaican cherries (Muntingia calabura). Tastes like cotton candy and buttered popcorn. Love this tree, great for kids. Handfuls of fruit every day.





Also made my first batch of guava leaf tea today. Asians swear by it. I prune guavas all the time and figured I might as well make use of the fresh leaves. Waiting for it to cool to try it.

Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 7:39 pm to
interested in a tea report. We make a lot of tea out of the yard and garden, the freeze dryer is especially useful for this. Mostly herbs, flowers, leaves and stems
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:39 pm to
It was different. I think I made it way too strong. It had this flavor note that tasted the way one of my pesticides smells. Couldn't shake the thought and didn't finish it. I'll stick to Camellia sinensis.
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