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How much should it cost to add a short 1/2" natural gas line ?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:32 pm
I bought a tri-fuel generator and I need a 1/2" gas line added at my gas main as it comes into the house. The gas main is close to he electrical panel so it makes since to put the generate close to both sources. The other option is the run either 60 feet of electrical cord to the patio area where I have a grill hooked up to a 1/2" line already there.
How much do you think a plumber would charge to add a 1/2 in with valve and quick connect?
How much do you think a plumber would charge to add a 1/2 in with valve and quick connect?
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 6:33 pm
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:08 pm to Crow Pie
350
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:22 pm to Crow Pie
The cost of pipe and Teflon. You have the fitting already. Shut the gas off, add a pup joint with a gas valve, thread pipe, add in the other pipe, add another gas valve. Done. Probably an hours worth of work which includes going to Home Depot for the pipe
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:27 pm to Crow Pie
damn man its not rocket science, just add the pipe fittings and your done, home depot has everything you need to do it yourself
unscrew pipe under the tee, ad another tee and a short nipple and a shut off valve and then add the fittings you need to run it anywhere you want it, then strap the pipe to the brick with clamps and masonry anchor screws
i bet you spend less the $100 on the galvanized pipe and fittings and its just an hours work to do it
the pipe at the bottom is there to collect any water that builds up in the gas line so thats why its there like that
unscrew pipe under the tee, ad another tee and a short nipple and a shut off valve and then add the fittings you need to run it anywhere you want it, then strap the pipe to the brick with clamps and masonry anchor screws
i bet you spend less the $100 on the galvanized pipe and fittings and its just an hours work to do it
the pipe at the bottom is there to collect any water that builds up in the gas line so thats why its there like that
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:50 pm to keakar
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bet you spend less the $100 on the galvanized pipe and fittings and its just an hours work to do it
Pretty sure you need black iron for gas line, not galvanized. Probably 30 bucks worth of parts. There's a lockout valve to turn off the gas at the bottom of the meter. Some pipe dope and pipe wrenches to add the fittings you need. I'd probably do 3/4" as much as possible.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 7:09 am to trident
quote:So just turn the gas off, unscrew the cap that is at the bottom of the tee that goes into the house, add another tee to tap the line off (with a shutoff valve and 1/2" quick connect) and create another dead end to catch the moisture. Its that easy.
You have the fitting already.
See setup I purchased earlier today in the post below.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:19 am to jfw3535
quote:
350
Not sure if this is meant to be a 350 joke from the OT, but it might be pretty accurate, but I would guess on the high end. A licensed plumber is going to be $100 to $150 per hour, but they might charge a 2 hour minimum, and as others have said, the parts should be not much more than $50. And the plumber would also relight any pilot lights you might have in the house (water heaters, gas range,etc) after he’s finished.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:23 am to CrawDude
quote:I have gas water heater and a gas range but I think they have "electric start" and not a traditional pilot light. Is this possible as I have never had to relight a pilot light in over 10 years.
relight any pilot lights you might have in the house (water heaters, gas range,etc) after he’s finished.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 8:31 am to Jon A thon
quote:
Pretty sure you need black iron for gas line, not galvanized.
no not outside, anything under ground or gets exposed to weather is galvanized
they only use black iron pipe inside where it doesnt get wet because it starts rusting immediately after installing it
its about cost savings to use the cheaper faster rusting black iron
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:05 am to keakar
quote:
not outside, anything under ground or gets exposed to weather is galvanized
My outside piping is black iron painted grey....
The picture he posted is painted grey (therefore not galvanized).
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:43 am to Crow Pie
OP what size generator are you running? You need to confirm that your gas supply and current meter will supply what you need. Its possible you need to upgrade meters.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 10:56 am to Jon A thon
quote:
My outside piping is black iron painted grey.
and oi installed residential gas lines to new houses for 25 years
you can find many contractors who use cheap materials and paint them instead of the proper pipe that should be used
black iron and galvanized are the exact same pipe, one is galvanized to prevent rust and one is just painted and starts rusting instantly
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:48 pm to keakar
quote:
you can find many contractors who use cheap materials and paint them instead of the proper pipe that should be used
Yep, the black iron uncoated pipe outside(rusted to hell but still holding) and under ground(completely disintegrated) needs to be replaced after ~15 years at my house.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:58 pm to baldona
quote:Firman 7500W Running / 9400W Peak Tri Fuel Generator
OP what size generator are you running? You need to confirm that your gas supply and current meter will supply what you need. Its possible you need to upgrade meters.
Features:
Runs on Gasoline, Propane Fuel or Natural Gas, for Flexibility on the Road or During Emergencies
9400 Starting Watts / 7500 Running Watts - Gasoline
8450 Starting Watts / 6750 Running Watts - LPG
6900 Starting Watts / 5500 Running Watts - Natural Gas
I went to get this set up at lunch. Does it look correct? (just insert it to the existing setup above the water pipe that terminates before it enters the house)
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 4:36 pm to Crow Pie
How has no one suggested hooking it up on the other side of the meter? 
Seriously though, you mention the connection for your grill on the patio. You could have gone with a flexible natural gas hose with quick connects to get you most of the way to the electrical box. But it looks like you are set up with parts and comfortable enough to DIY. Good luck.
Seriously though, you mention the connection for your grill on the patio. You could have gone with a flexible natural gas hose with quick connects to get you most of the way to the electrical box. But it looks like you are set up with parts and comfortable enough to DIY. Good luck.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:47 pm to TheLSUriot
quote:The grill is 65 feet away so if I set the genset up close to the both the electrical panel and gas main I can avoid the cost of a long run of gas and /or 10/4 electrical cord AND the most importantly the generator is on the side of my house where my AC units are and the noise will be reduced considerably. The grill is on my patio and the noise would be too much and this set up eliminates that issue.
Seriously though, you mention the connection for your grill on the patio. You could have gone with a flexible natural gas hose with quick connects to get you most of the way to the electrical box. But it looks like you are set up with parts and comfortable enough to DIY. Good luck
Posted on 9/23/21 at 7:38 am to Crow Pie
Is that pex going into the house?
WTH is going on with all those CATV wires
WTH is going on with all those CATV wires
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:01 am to Jimmy2shoes
quote:The Remains of time gone by as none of that is active. Before I owned the house I have old school hard wired phones, an alarm system, former Cox coaxial cable & internet, Local utility cable and fiber. The only service I have know is ATT Fiber and its on another wall. I guess I should just cut all that away!
WTH is going on with all those CATV wires
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/23/21 at 9:32 am to Crow Pie
Checking online, there's about an 80/20 split on using black iron pipe versus galvanized. The main issue with galvanized pipe is the zinc flaking off internally and potentially plugging a downstream orifice. Proceed at your own risk with these fittings.
I would check the tag on the valve and make sure it's rated for gas service. This *appears* to be a generic valve rated for water service, not gas.
There is a pipe thread compound made for gas service - use this instead of Teflon tape, as shredded tape pieces can also plug downstream orifices.
I would check the tag on the valve and make sure it's rated for gas service. This *appears* to be a generic valve rated for water service, not gas.
There is a pipe thread compound made for gas service - use this instead of Teflon tape, as shredded tape pieces can also plug downstream orifices.
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