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re: Escrow question
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:15 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:15 pm to deeprig9
quote:I watched my mortgage company recalculate 6 years in a row, each time increasing escrow portion of my mortgage. Overall my mortgage payment grew 50% over those 6 years, due to escrow alone. They were holding far more money than necessary to cover tax+insurance.
don't think you know how escrow works or what it is
When I cancelled escrow, they sent me a big check that covered 2.5 years of taxes and insurance.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:31 pm to BabyTac
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Not sure. I’ve always either paid cash for a home or put at least 20% down so I don’t have to escrow.
Wrong. You’re thinking of PMI. Escrow is optional unless you’re in a flood zone. Most lenders will make you escrow flood insurance.
Now back to escrow. It’s optional and you don’t have to have it. It requires a cushion to be maintained and also your fees at closing are a lot more. However, I don’t want to shell out $7k for taxes and insurance when I get those annual bills so it’s worth it for me to have the bank pay it.
If your taxes and/or insurance goes up, you’ll have to increase the cushion, increase the current escrow balance to pay the bill, and also increase the payments going forward to be able to pay next year’s bill.
Escrow analysis is ran annually and if your insurance comes back down, or if you shop and find cheaper insurance, you’ll get a refund.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:42 pm to RandySavage
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The primary jump was explained that I had a $376 dollar shortage in my account and that I also must maintain a minimum of $1400 in my escrow account leading to a $1776 shortage which comes out to almost $150 extra a month.
That happened to me.
I just made the one-time payment to get my escrow back up to where it needed to be.
Glad I don't have to deal with all that shite anymore.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:51 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
frick their cushion. I just started an escrow in a money market account. At least I’m getting some interest on my money. They don’t do a very good job estimating the escrow in my opinion. My escrow is damn near close to the price of my mortgage.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 4:52 pm to RandySavage
So what you got that cashflow and escrow
Damn
But your honey ran away like presto
Alakazam
Damn
But your honey ran away like presto
Alakazam
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:00 pm to BigPerm30
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I just started an escrow in a money market account.
I just paid my shite off once the interest payments were too small to write off anymore.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:00 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I just made the one-time payment to get my escrow back up to where it needed to be.
Glad I don't have to deal with all that shite anymore.
I guess this is my biggest concern, being that it's not a one time thing. In the nearly two years I've been in this house it's gone up $300 a month. I can swallow that but if that rate continues for next few years that's not going to be good.
In the 13 years I was in my other house the percentage increase is probably already higher on this house in less than 2 years..
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:05 pm to RandySavage
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In the 13 years I was in my other house the percentage increase is probably already higher on this house in less than 2 years..
Have you seen how the world has been operating the last two years? If taxes and insurance come down (unlikely) then your escrow will come down. It is more likely that they remain somewhat stable and it won’t go up or if it does, not nearly at that level.
It amazes me how people don’t understand the basic financial life functions. No offense because there are many people in your same situation.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:12 pm to BigPerm30
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It amazes me how people don’t understand the basic financial life functions.
Not me. The finances can get complex, and half the people in this country have a below average intelligence. I'm surprised so many can make it.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:14 pm to RandySavage
If both your homeowners insurance and property tax went up $500 each, that created a $1000 shortage in your escrow…or about $83 a month.
You’re short $1000 this year and your lender increases the escrow by $83 a month expecting to pay the same tax and insurance rate next year. But they still need to make up the $1000 shortage for this year, so they double that $83 up to account for higher expected tax/insurance next year and to recoup the shortage from this year
You’re short $1000 this year and your lender increases the escrow by $83 a month expecting to pay the same tax and insurance rate next year. But they still need to make up the $1000 shortage for this year, so they double that $83 up to account for higher expected tax/insurance next year and to recoup the shortage from this year
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:21 pm to RandySavage
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It makes no sense to me since property values are down
Your property value is down? Where do you live?
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:31 pm to RandySavage
Escrow covers you insurance and ur property taxes and PMI. But after 15 years there should be no PMI.
My guess is you insurance just jumped.
My guess is you insurance just jumped.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:36 pm to RandySavage
You realize the escrow is for your insurance and taxes? One of those is going up. Probably your insurance
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:41 pm to tigeraddict
Happened to me, I got the letter that said I was $1k short in escrow. If I dont pay it, mortgage is going up $200 next month.... So I said $200 x 12 = $2400 Im only $1k short. They gave me the run around, It sucks to be blue collar
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:42 pm to RandySavage
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I guess this is my biggest concern, being that it's not a one time thing. In the nearly two years I've been in this house it's gone up $300 a month. I can swallow that but if that rate continues for next few years that's not going to be good.
You can also try to shop homeowners insurance as well. If you find a cheaper provider let your mortgage lender k ow and they will change payee and re calculate your escrow.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 5:46 pm to RandySavage
check with your insurance company, if it's them make them shop around for better prices every time the policy comes up for renewal, also, if you are paying PMI and no longer required to do so, it will somehow slip the mortgage company's mind to tell you so, fifteen years in and with the way the real estate market has been it's likely you've been paying that longer than you should
Posted on 3/3/23 at 6:04 pm to BabyTac
Your mortgage company should be able to tell you if it's Insurance or Tax that changed.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 7:23 pm to 3D
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Happened to me, I got the letter that said I was $1k short in escrow. If I dont pay it, mortgage is going up $200 next month.... So I said $200 x 12 = $2400 Im only $1k short. They gave me the run around, It sucks to be blue collar
Sucking at math has nothing to do with blue collar work.
That $2400 is to pay off the $1000 shortfall from the previous year (that they fronted you, interest free), plus the $1000 shortfall you'll have next year, with a $400 buffer.
Don't be mad at the mortgage servicer (there's plenty of other stuff to hate them for). You need to be on the phone with your local county/city/parish asking why your property taxes are skyrocketing. They are the ones receiving that money, the mortgage services just hold it in escrow account from your monthly payments just waiting for your local politicians to send them the bill.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 3/4/23 at 8:27 am to tigeraddict
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Escrow covers you insurance and ur property taxes and PMI. But after 15 years there should be no PMI.
I understand. Read the thread. I do not have PMI. My insurance and taxes both went up about 500 dollars which would be around an understandable/reasonable raise of about 80 a month. Mine went up 250 a month.
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:14 am to RandySavage
Randy was this a new house/ new construction you moved into in 2021?
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