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re: embracing lawn ornaments for a biodiverse and healthy lawn without chemicals

Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1417 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:21 pm to
I wish I could do this, but I'd be getting the stank eye from the other 9 neighbors on my stretched out cul-de-sac, who have pristine lawns and a guy that sprays them ever so often.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Pop
Member since Feb 2013
1106 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:41 pm to
I sincerely hope that I never am reduced to the point that I have to go looking around my lawn or beds to find something that is considered edible or medicinal.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 7:16 pm to
why not? Is synthetic food or medicine somehow more appealing to you? It’s not a matter of “have to” in this great country of ours, it’s more a matter of “want to”

When I choose a plant the first thing I look for is “can I eat it?” or “can I use it?”

did you know dandelion leaves make a delicious salad? And the roots can be roasted a brewed like coffee? And that dandelion tea is a powerful antioxidant and anti inflammatory agent? Every part is usable—leaves, roots, and flowers—boasting vitamins A, C, K, and essential minerals, while their deep taproots improve soil health by aerating and transporting nutrients

I think that’s amazing
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4862 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 8:15 am to
start with a small patch and i bet your neighbors will be VERY interested
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87411 posts
Posted on 4/16/26 at 10:23 am to
I went the other way around and have never been happier with my lawn.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20343 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 1:14 pm to
I’ve stopped almost all chemicals besides some spot treating crabgrass because I hate it and I find it hard as hell to pull out and get the roots.

I do core aerate and overseed in fall because I have mostly fescue and KBG.

That’s it.

And I have a native wildflower garden that spans my property line in the back. Buy the seeds from a nursery every spring.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 8:41 pm to
I’ve just been lazy this year and will say I’m inspired and stick with the natural program.

Haven’t put anything in my St. Augustine in Dallas and it looks phenomenal already.

Handful of weeds pop up when it rains but can’t see anything after a good mow. They’ll get choked/burnt out later in the summer anyway.

Good thread.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13259 posts
Posted on 4/19/26 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

spiderwort

Will certainly self-seed like crazy. I'm going to have to thin mine and do some controling in the future. This is only it's second year in this location.

Had some growing under dense oak trees at my MIL's and just grabbed a shovel and got some. It likes my location better...the stuff is about 30 inches tall.

The bees do love it and flowers all summer.
Posted by DickTater
Geismar
Member since Feb 2013
214 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:21 am to
Say you had a section of lawn you wanted to convert. What would be the process?

Does the grass need to be killed, tilled, scalped?
Guessing the seed wouldn’t germinate well just dropping it in

What’s been the experience of those who have
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9227 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:08 am to
I drop in small plants I start myself, then weedeat around them while they start taking over. Stuff like clover will take fine just broadcasting.


On this general topic, my constant dilemma is converting vs ticks. Let the yard convert and it’s natural and gorgeous, less maintenance for me as I get older. But, the ticks will take off.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:40 am to
I usually pick a spot, lay it out, and cover it up. Put a bunch of cardboard boxes down, get them good and wet and either cover with a tarp or a thick layer of mulch. In the fall, remove the tarp if you used it and add 6-8” of soil. Border with logs or wood or something then sow seeds and cover with pine straw
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:42 am to
Spiderwort is edible also in case you didn’t know. The leaves and stems and flowers are great in salads, and if you cut a stem and squeeze you get a soothing gel similar to aloe for burns and bug bites
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4862 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:02 am to
quote:

On this general topic, my constant dilemma is converting vs ticks. Let the yard convert and it’s natural and gorgeous, less maintenance for me as I get older. But, the ticks will take off


You have to do a controlled burn every other year and this wont happen
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:30 am to
I do a burn every couple years on an area that I’ve allowed to naturalize primarily to knock the privet and trumpet vine down. It does help and it’s shocking how quickly it restores itself

this area is also where I stockpile branches and other brushy waste to use to fill the bottom of new raised beds. The rabbits like it
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 10:34 am to
What about mosquitos and annoying bugs in general? Does it not get out of control and not allow you to enjoy your yard?

That's my dilemna for late summer/early fall. Would like to hold off on normal Talstar spray which seemingly nukes everything.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:14 am to
you’re gonna have mosquitoes no matter what you do. Yes I’m aware talstar will keep them from overnighting in your concealed areas but you are killing everything with that. Want to know why there are so few lightning bugs these days? That’s why

I am trying to cultivate insects. Once the insects are established the life around the plantings explodes…birds, lizards, skinks, dragonflies, frogs, toads, bats, etc.

Fans to keep skeeters off you in outside areas are cheaper and more effective and obviously non toxic. And every summer night I enjoy a lightning bug show
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43146 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Does it not get out of control and not allow you to enjoy your yard?


I have all sorts of insects in my NoMow in Dallas but none I would consider annoying, save mosquitos which are no worse than when I had a traditional yard. All the various bees, moths including hummingbird moths, fireflies and butterflies are very entertaining.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:35 pm to
Here’s a spot under construction. Was a very old rotten water oak that came down during Ida. I ignored it until this winter, it was completely overgrown with vines, briars and chicken trees. I cut and pulled by hand and poisoned the chicken tree stumps with salt and vinegar.

This is after I just burned what has come up this spring, which was about 1/4 of what was growing so we are making progress



The tallow stumps are dead, I’m going to leave the volunteer pine. After a few days letting that bake in the sun ill pull whatever roots I can get to, and then I’ll tarp it for the rest of the summer. This fall/winter after some pulling of any roots left and soil amendments I’ll plant.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19470 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:44 pm to
Yea, was just referring to flies and mosquitos.

I’ll give all natural a go this year and see how this goes.

Appreciate all the tips and insights here.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49047 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 4:42 pm to
Dug and pulled trumpet vines and roots, raked smoothish, cut tallow stumps flush (gave them one more swallow of salt and vinegar) and tarped for the summer. It will get hot as frick under that tarp and kill anything else that’s left.

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