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EARLY fungus in my St. Augustine

Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:57 pm
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 4:57 pm
I'm beginning to side with ronk. It doesn't seem like these fungi were an issue 20-30 years ago though. I treated with propicanizole last week, and will follow up with azoxystrobin next week.

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This post was edited on 4/8/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:04 pm to
I’m about sick of the shite too
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16452 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

I'm beginning to side with ronk.


What’s his take on this? I don’t know what you are referring to.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
821 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 8:00 pm to
Ronk’s opinion, which I agree with, is that Bermuda is the alpha lawn because the other southern lawn types are much more susceptible to heat, drought, fungus and disease.

I would say pests, but Bermuda is more susceptible to army worms which prefer the highly fertilized and finer blades of Bermuda. Trust me, I know
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:12 pm to
He’s said lately that St Aug isn’t holding up worth a shite in his DFW area and he’s getting blamed for it. But in reality they’ve had record droughts, heat, and cold in the last three years alone.

States that DFW is the northern limit for St Aug, which I did not know.
Posted by bkhrph
Lake Charles
Member since May 2022
169 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 9:45 pm to
Probably due to climate change lol.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11161 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 10:03 pm to
Other issue with SA is torpedo grass.

Completely untreatable in SA.

Bermuda you have some options and cutting lower and more frequently its not as big of a problem.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21512 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:22 am to
quote:

Bermuda you have some options

What are the options for treating?
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21512 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:22 am to
quote:

I would say pests, but Bermuda is more susceptible to army worms which prefer the highly fertilized and finer blades of Bermuda.

What did you use to treat? I want to make sure I have some product on hand, just in case.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6182 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:38 am to
St Aug is struggling. It is not holding up like it used. The current way the weather is set up is causing major issues. In my area this really kicked off in 2021. 6 inches of snow and 129 hour below freezing. A lot of St Aug died, what didn't die suffered from take all patch fungus........then died. Zoysia, which was a little less used is now starting to take off. Certain varieties are shade tolerant and stand up to disease and cold better.


And yes, I do believe that bermuda is the dominant grass. If you were to round up your entire yard and return it to dirt, bermuda would very soon pop up.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6182 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:42 am to
For torpedo grass in bermuda you can use repeated applications of quinclorac or that product that you can use on golf courses.
Posted by jlsufan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
261 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:14 am to
in you opinion, what's the best zoysia for shade tolerance and disease resistance in baton rouge?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6182 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:33 am to
Palisades zoysia is probably available in Baton Rouge.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Palisades zoysia is probably available in Baton Rouge.



It is available through Woerner Turf on Airline by Women's Hospital. Love it in my backyard. Kinda want my front yard to totally die so I can justify the expense of replacing it with more zoysia.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
821 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

What did you use to treat? I want to make sure I have some product on hand, just in case.
You want to treat when they are young and have just hatched which can be multiple times per growing season.

I plan on treating in a few weeks and I use Triazicide Insect Killer, which obviously didn’t work last year It is very cheap and my lawn bounced back pretty quickly after the worms ate about 25% of my lawn in 2-3 days.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13382 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:55 am to
I’m going on year 3 with my St Aug and beginning to loathe it. I welcome the Bermuda trying to take it over.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21512 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:07 am to
quote:

For torpedo grass in bermuda you can use repeated applications of quinclorac or that product that you can use on golf courses.

Thank you sir.
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5323 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:05 am to
I'm coming around to ronk's mindset lately on bermuda.

I had a pretty bad case of large patch a few years ago when we had a really wet Fall season, and that shite is totally uncontrollable now every Fall, even with alternating Azoxystrobin and propiconazole each year (monthly applications). So when spring rolls around, the grass takes forever to green up and fill in the diseased areas. I'm this close to converting over to the dark side, likely will be renting a sod cutter to rip out all my St. Aug and replacing with bermuda soon.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
21512 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:28 am to
quote:

I'm coming around to ronk's mindset lately on bermuda.

I had a pretty bad case of large patch a few years ago when we had a really wet Fall season, and that shite is totally uncontrollable now every Fall, even with alternating Azoxystrobin and propiconazole each year (monthly applications). So when spring rolls around, the grass takes forever to green up and fill in the diseased areas. I'm this close to converting over to the dark side, likely will be renting a sod cutter to rip out all my St. Aug and replacing with Bermuda soon.

Go for it! You won't regret it.

I did the same with roughly 8000 SF of centipede about a year ago with Tifway 419.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18903 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 11:43 am to
quote:

I did the same with roughly 8000 SF of centipede about a year ago with Tifway 419.

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