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Anyone here ever replaced their outdoor porch ceiling?

Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
1526 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:10 pm
My back patio currently has thin painted plywood for the ceiling. It has some areas of damage and I want to replace it and possibly upgrade materials. Anyone ever done this and know of who in BR can do this work? About how much? Any info helps, TIA.

Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10863 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:20 pm to
an option would be beaded plywood and then paint it, looks good on mine

you can go right on top of the existing ceiling
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

beaded plywood and then paint it, looks good on mine

Same on mine.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2944 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:56 pm to
or beaded hardie sheets
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:06 pm to
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beaded hardie sheets

Have hardie plank on a couple areas of the house that is not brick - that product will last forever as it’s cement board.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:14 pm to
I did beaded board on my breezeway when I connected the new garage to the existing house.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11176 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:29 pm to
I’d go hardie board for durability alone.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:44 pm to
Cedar fence boards, planed.

Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10698 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:06 pm to
The beaded plywood looks better than the Hardie beaded. That Hardie is just a thin line. No real defined bead
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Cedar fence boards, planed.

Nice!
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:44 pm to
Anyone tried flat hardie plywood and floated it like an indoor ceiling? That's where I'm leaning. I have plywood like that now and it's always cracking at the seams b/c wood...
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:29 pm to
I have hardie board as finish trim on my outdoor beams. I didn't float it, just painted.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10397 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 7:24 am to
That looks fantastic
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1255 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:44 am to
I did beaded plywood on our back patio with cheap insulation sandwiched between on our back deck I build last year. Sprayed it white and called it a day. Looks great and has held up well in the weather.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16560 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:27 am to
I've done stained pine t&g, looks better that bead panels.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 10:41 am to
Those w/ outdoor porch ceilings...did you insulate? When I redo mine, I'm debating spray foam. I read somewhere that it can drastically reduce the heat. Thoughts?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16560 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:21 am to
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Those w/ outdoor porch ceilings...did you insulate?


Depends on how the space is connected to the house. I think I've ever done one were there was existing insulation and I've never added any in those that didn't already have it. I don't see much benefit for the extra work and expense, I guess you could run some foil-faced foam board if you wanted.
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 12:03 pm to
Long post incoming……..

Thanks for the compliments. Here's some of my info/thoughts on porch ceilings (we just did a lot of thinking on this while building my house). We were trying to decide on what to put on our front and side porches along with our patio. We had initially planned on beaded hardie boards then went back and forth with t&g pine, then i thought about the fence board option. We went with fence boards on our back patio (stain & sealed with benjamin moore Arborcoat) and t&g pine on the front and side porch (“painted” with BM arboarcoat light blue). One thing to think about is wood grain won’t show bugs/dirtiness as much as light color painted.

Approx price/SF of a few options:
Cedar fence boards: $1.45
Pine T&G: $2.18
Cedar T&G: $4.22
Beaded Pine Plywood: $0.75
Beaded Hardie: $1.56

My pros & cons for each:
Cedar fence boards
P: look good (if you get good quality, not lowes), we preferred how cedar looked vs stained and sealed pine, easy to install (just butted together and face nailed with a finish nail gun)
C: takes some labor to plane them, need a benchtop planer

Pine T&G
P: look good installed, very clean finished look, not too expensive, reversible so beaded look as well
C: PAIN IN THE arse to install on a ceiling because the boards are never perfectly straight and you have to wedge them in, didn’t like how they looked stained. I’ll personally never install again, LOL!

Cedar T&G
P: Looks awesome
C: Cost$$ and installation issues similar to pine

Beaded Pine Plywood (installed this on my porch at old house):
P: Least costly
C: not uniform look (plywood isn’t perfect), didn’t like stained look of pine similar to t&g, big pieces would be awkward to install

Beaded hardie (installed this on a small porch on my old shed, not a big area):
P: durable, uniform look
C: Awkward/heavy to install plus hardie is prone to breaking if it bends (once installed, it's bulletproof). Need to use large head nails to suck it up to joists or decking (more putty/caulk work)

Someone mentioned “floating” smooth hardie. You’d have to use some sort of exterior compound plus I think you’d be dealing with cracking forever. One thing I’ve seen is someone installed full sheets of smooth hardie (or maybe beaded) then used 1x3’s as battens in a 4’x4’ pattern to cover the joints. Looked good and if you cut the sheets to 4x4, it would be easier to install.

We don’t have insulation above our patio currently but could add easily in the future.

Hope the info above helps.




This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Purpleblooded
Member since Dec 2019
580 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 2:38 pm to
Coon did you rip each fence board to make them exactly straight and same width?

Also what arbour coat did you use on the fence boards?
This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 2:56 pm to
No and only planed one face. So they’re not all the same thickness either (within 1/16”). We would do 40 or 50 in a stack at a time and just pass them all through and out them in a “done” or “not done” stack. And kept passing all of them til they were smooth and “done”. The widths were close enough not to cause issues.

The beauty of the fences boards was that it looked a little rustic so it didn’t have to be perfect.

On the t&g pine, you have to close the gap until the v-groove touches to give it that finished look. It takes some work.





Here’s a t&g piece being installed with wedges. Had to screw each block into the ceiling then hammer the wedge in. 5-6 wedges per 16’ board. And these were straight, good lookin boards.

This post was edited on 5/19/20 at 3:05 pm
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