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re: 2020 Garden Thread
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:20 pm to PillageUrVillage
Posted on 4/19/20 at 4:20 pm to PillageUrVillage
Have my first Lemon Boy tomato coming in.
Really curious to see how these turn out.
Really curious to see how these turn out.
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Posted on 4/19/20 at 7:55 pm to Centinel
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So...open to your suggestions for those oddball cultivars that do well in the south that you've always wanted to try but haven't had the room.
Cucamelon
I should start a separate garden for experimental stuff.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 9:09 pm to PillageUrVillage
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Cucamelon
That's another name for the Mexican Sour Gherkins I'm already going to grow. I'll let you know how they turn out.
ETA: I'm seriously thinking going full permaculture in that part of the yard. I already have a persimmon tree growing, along with pomegranates along the fence on the west side of the area. Just need to add in another fruit tree or two, wood chip the entire area, and add in a bush layer. The area closest to my house has the raised beds where I'd keep growing annuals and is far enough away from the back fence to not get shaded by the fruit trees. All of the area is facing directly south too.
This post was edited on 4/19/20 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/19/20 at 9:35 pm to Centinel
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That's another name for the Mexican Sour Gherkins I'm already going to grow. I'll let you know how they turn out.
Ah, ok. Didn’t know that. And please do.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:40 am to PillageUrVillage
So my zucchini and squash are producing tons of flowers but not bearing any fruit, what gives?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 2:38 pm to sloopy
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So my zucchini and squash are producing tons of flowers but not bearing any fruit, what gives?
Sounds like they aren’t being pollinated. They’re both cucurbits if I remember correctly. Which means they should have male and female flowers. If pollinators aren’t doing a sufficient job, you could try hand pollinating with a soft bristle paint brush. Dip the brush in the male flower to gather pollen, then transfer it over to the female flower. Easy peasy. I’ve had to do it many times on my cucumber plants.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 6:25 am to PillageUrVillage
Not sure if I have a problem or not, but my Zucchini plant is doing great from the looks of it, it's huge. But I noticed out of every 8-9 or so Zucchinis that are starting to develop, about 3 of them are getting about 3-4 inches long and then getting blossom end rot. I still have 4-5 right now that are about 4-5 inches long and look healthy, really dark and will hopefully be ready to pick in the next week or so. Question is, am I expected to lose 2 or 3 here and there, or should all of them be healthy enough to pick before rotting?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 8:46 am to Centinel
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I've had multiple people recommend doing this, so I have a fish and kelp blend that will be here Sunday that I'm going to start using.
Did my first foliar fertilizer treatment this morning. Hit all my veggies, persimmon tree, pineapple guavas, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, and pomegranates. Probably a bit late for the blueberries, but can't hurt I guess. The concentrate and resultant mix didn't smell nearly as bad as everyone was freaking out about in the reviews for the product.
ETA: Oh, and I have three goji berry bushes on the way.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:03 am to Centinel
Question Re: cucumbers.
Do the female flowers close up once pollinated? Or do they just close up in the evening or at random times?
Do the female flowers close up once pollinated? Or do they just close up in the evening or at random times?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:35 am to jyoung1
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Do the female flowers close up once pollinated? Or do they just close up in the evening or at random times?
I’d imagine several environmental factors would determine how long they stay open. But my experience is that they open up in the morning and close up by the end of the day. That’s pretty much their window for pollination. If they’re pollinated, they grow into cucumbers. If not, they’ll die and fall off after a couple of days.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:25 am to PillageUrVillage
When ever you hand pollinated your cucs, could you actually see pollen off the male flower? I attempted this morning and couldn't tell if anything was there.
I did the same with my zucchini and saw loads of pollen.
I did the same with my zucchini and saw loads of pollen.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:53 am to CDH1990
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Not sure if I have a problem or not, but my Zucchini plant is doing great from the looks of it, it's huge. But I noticed out of every 8-9 or so Zucchinis that are starting to develop, about 3 of them are getting about 3-4 inches long and then getting blossom end rot. I still have 4-5 right now that are about 4-5 inches long and look healthy, really dark and will hopefully be ready to pick in the next week or so. Question is, am I expected to lose 2 or 3 here and there, or should all of them be healthy enough to pick before rotting?
All of that is normal. Zucchini can get what looks like blossom end rot just because of incomplete pollination. I'd say your rate of zucchinis pollinated successfully to full sized fruit is the same as mine.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:02 am to BallsEleven
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When ever you hand pollinated your cucs, could you actually see pollen off the male flower?
Yeah, hardly. But it’s there. A lot of times I’ll just pluck the male flower, peel back the petals, and dip the stamen directly into the female flowers. Giggity
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:18 am to PillageUrVillage
Ive never noticed the difference between flowers (male and female)
if you do this again, could you post pics?
flower porn
if you do this again, could you post pics?
flower porn
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:12 am to DomincDecoco
Male flowers have no baby attached to them. Just a flower.
fjlee90 has a photo of female cuc flowers on page 29.
fjlee90 has a photo of female cuc flowers on page 29.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:22 am to DomincDecoco
Three female flowers:
Male flower:
Also there are some varieties where about 90% of the seeds in a packet will grow into plants with only female flowers. And the other 10% will grow only male flowers. I planted some this year (General Lee), the male seeds were coated a different color than the rest, there were 2 male seeds and like 18 female in a packet, so i planted 1 male and the rest female. They’re all next to a bed with normal (monoecious?) cucumbers.
There are also some varieties that have male and female parts in every flower and self pollinate like tomatoes. I want to say sweet success is a self pollinating variety. (Gynoecious?)
Male flower:
Also there are some varieties where about 90% of the seeds in a packet will grow into plants with only female flowers. And the other 10% will grow only male flowers. I planted some this year (General Lee), the male seeds were coated a different color than the rest, there were 2 male seeds and like 18 female in a packet, so i planted 1 male and the rest female. They’re all next to a bed with normal (monoecious?) cucumbers.
There are also some varieties that have male and female parts in every flower and self pollinate like tomatoes. I want to say sweet success is a self pollinating variety. (Gynoecious?)
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:34 am to BallsEleven
Also, you can barely make out the pollen on this brush. I tried to zoom in best I could, it’s a little more obvious with my own eyes. Not sure if you are using brush or q tip, i think it’s more visible on brush.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:02 pm to jyoung1
Someone did his homework.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:09 pm to jyoung1
I used a qtip since its all I had at the moment.
Weren't some of yall jerking them off with electric toothbrushes last year?
Weren't some of yall jerking them off with electric toothbrushes last year?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 12:22 pm to BallsEleven
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Weren't some of yall jerking them off with electric toothbrushes last year?
Works great on self pollinators. I do it on my tomato flowers. They need a little help getting off sometimes. My peppers need no help.
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