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2020 Garden Thread
Posted on 12/23/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 5:02 pm
With PillageUrVillage asking for the assist in the 2019 Garden Thread, I thought I would “get this party started.”
LSUAg Center
LSUAg Center is one of the go-to sites for gardeners in the Louisiana area. The wealth of knowledge they have put together is incredible. If you can’t find information on what you are looking for in this link, I recommend searching with “lsuag” in the front (ex. Lsuag squash). There is a pdf out there for just about everything.
LSUAg Vegetable Planting Guide
This is a good general guide that covers home gardening as a whole. This pdf covers a variety of different plant care, planting dates, and recommended varieties.
Growveg.com
I found this site earlier this year while planning my own garden. It has a very handy garden planner that is free for 7 days when you sign up (no CC required, just email). Not only can you create a copy of your garden, but it will also automatically suggest how many you can fit in the area. Also, it will produce a list of all your plants, how many, spacing, and a chart with plant and harvest dates.
In addition to the garden planner, it also has a journal where you can easily makes notes of what you have done each day. The journal also tracks the weather so you know the temps and if it rained recently.
DavesGarden.com
This site as a whole is filled with a ton of articles but I specifically linked the Garden Watchdog section of the website. They gather ratings on just about every nursery or seed website out there and let you see reviews and even company responses to negative reviews. They have a Watchdog 30 which are the 30 highest rated companies in the U.S. (rareseeds.com being one of them).
ReimerSeeds.com
Reimer has one of the largest selections of seeds I have seen, specifically their pepper seeds. If you need an extremely hot pepper or some rare type, this is where you want to go. If you want a pepper that looks like it has already come out of someone who recently ate a hot pepper, this is also where you want to go (see Chocolate Carolina Reaper). Fair warning, some posters have had mixed reviews with them, myself included. I still have quite a few from earlier, so I will report back on my luck with them this year.
Baker Creek (RareSeeds.com)
Baker Creek also has a good selection, but they are known for their high quality. So far, I have gotten Tabasco seeds and creole garlic from them. The garlic I went 90% on and the Tabasco I am at 100% germ rate so I have been pretty happy with them. If I have any more trouble with my seeds from Reimer, this will be the first site I go to for more.
Other Seed Websites:
ParkSeed.com
HarisSeeds.com
Gurneys.com
LSUAg Center
LSUAg Center is one of the go-to sites for gardeners in the Louisiana area. The wealth of knowledge they have put together is incredible. If you can’t find information on what you are looking for in this link, I recommend searching with “lsuag” in the front (ex. Lsuag squash). There is a pdf out there for just about everything.
LSUAg Vegetable Planting Guide
This is a good general guide that covers home gardening as a whole. This pdf covers a variety of different plant care, planting dates, and recommended varieties.
Growveg.com
I found this site earlier this year while planning my own garden. It has a very handy garden planner that is free for 7 days when you sign up (no CC required, just email). Not only can you create a copy of your garden, but it will also automatically suggest how many you can fit in the area. Also, it will produce a list of all your plants, how many, spacing, and a chart with plant and harvest dates.
In addition to the garden planner, it also has a journal where you can easily makes notes of what you have done each day. The journal also tracks the weather so you know the temps and if it rained recently.
DavesGarden.com
This site as a whole is filled with a ton of articles but I specifically linked the Garden Watchdog section of the website. They gather ratings on just about every nursery or seed website out there and let you see reviews and even company responses to negative reviews. They have a Watchdog 30 which are the 30 highest rated companies in the U.S. (rareseeds.com being one of them).
ReimerSeeds.com
Reimer has one of the largest selections of seeds I have seen, specifically their pepper seeds. If you need an extremely hot pepper or some rare type, this is where you want to go. If you want a pepper that looks like it has already come out of someone who recently ate a hot pepper, this is also where you want to go (see Chocolate Carolina Reaper). Fair warning, some posters have had mixed reviews with them, myself included. I still have quite a few from earlier, so I will report back on my luck with them this year.
Baker Creek (RareSeeds.com)
Baker Creek also has a good selection, but they are known for their high quality. So far, I have gotten Tabasco seeds and creole garlic from them. The garlic I went 90% on and the Tabasco I am at 100% germ rate so I have been pretty happy with them. If I have any more trouble with my seeds from Reimer, this will be the first site I go to for more.
Other Seed Websites:
ParkSeed.com
HarisSeeds.com
Gurneys.com
This post was edited on 12/24/19 at 6:39 am
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Posted on 12/23/19 at 5:03 pm to BallsEleven
Currently I have romaine, creole garlic, premium broccoli, danvers 126 carrots, and yellow granex onions going in the winter garden. I will soon start some graffiti cauliflower, great lakes lettuce and more broccoli in trays for the end of winter and when time comes fill in the bare spots where I didn’t get any production from carrots and onion.
The plan for the late spring is marketmore 76 for cucumbers, some rows of pole beans, a couple of cayenne and bell peppers, then throw in some squash, zuchhini, and eggplant. I may do a row of okra as well. I bought some bags for irish and red potatoes as well as some sweet potato.
I hadn’t planned on doing any tomato since we don’t really use them but the thought of making my own salsa has me wanting to make room somewhere.
For shits and giggles, I want to order some Havanna Tobacco seeds
The plan for the late spring is marketmore 76 for cucumbers, some rows of pole beans, a couple of cayenne and bell peppers, then throw in some squash, zuchhini, and eggplant. I may do a row of okra as well. I bought some bags for irish and red potatoes as well as some sweet potato.
I hadn’t planned on doing any tomato since we don’t really use them but the thought of making my own salsa has me wanting to make room somewhere.
For shits and giggles, I want to order some Havanna Tobacco seeds
Posted on 12/23/19 at 5:54 pm to BallsEleven
Solid work. Thanks for putting it together.
I ordered a few things from parkseed earlier today. I upgraded my lighting for my seed starts. Built a mount for it with PVC yesterday. My operation isn’t that big, so I hope it’ll be enough.
So far I plan to start Early Girl tomatoes, Bushsteak tomatoes, Better Bush tomatoes, Supremo Roma tomatoes, Jalapeño peppers, Carmen Peppers, Cayenne peppers, and Copenhagen Market Early Cabbage. Gonna direct sow beans and cucumbers around April. And once the cabbage is done I’ll plant Clemson Spineless okra in their place.
Plans subject to change. As always.
ETA: I still have a bunch of Danver carrot seeds, so I may try to grow some spring carrots in my herb box.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:16 pm to PillageUrVillage
Thanks!
Damn, that’s a good idea!
Right now I have a clip on light that just covers my 72 cell tray. If I stick with seeding I’ll upgrade and probably do that same thing.
One thing I learned this past year is the value of a heating mat and I tend to over water plants. Hopefully I have more success this year.
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Built a mount for it with PVC yesterday
Damn, that’s a good idea!
Right now I have a clip on light that just covers my 72 cell tray. If I stick with seeding I’ll upgrade and probably do that same thing.
One thing I learned this past year is the value of a heating mat and I tend to over water plants. Hopefully I have more success this year.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 8:48 pm to BallsEleven
Planted about 25 lettuce of different varieties. Were all eaten down that same night
Still got a few broccoli though.
Don’t mind the graveyard of tomatoes in the back that were killed by the early freeze, been too busy to pull up plants / repurpose soil.
Still got a few broccoli though.
Don’t mind the graveyard of tomatoes in the back that were killed by the early freeze, been too busy to pull up plants / repurpose soil.
Posted on 12/25/19 at 8:54 pm to jyoung1
Nice, your broccoli is much bigger than mine at this point. They have been slow growing. I’ll probably start a 2nd round of seeds next week.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 9:18 am to BallsEleven
My tomatoes and peppers are still alive from 2019. Maybe I should just rip out the tomatoes.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:06 pm to BallsEleven
Mine have blew up. I've harvested 8 heads of broccoli bigger than my hand. Cut off 6 heads of cauliflower a little bigger than the broccoli. Also harvested 3 heads of cabbage. My kale is ready and new batch of assorted lettuce is growing slow, but should be ready in a couple weeks. Also my carrots are steady and onions and garlic are doing well.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 2:34 pm to BallsEleven
I have creole garlic growing around all of my hybrid tea roses this year. It was suggested that they would actually help with diseases and bug problems on the roses. They are supposed to make the flowers smell more intense as well. This is my first time trying it so I will report back this summer how it went. If it works, they will be around all of my roses going forward.
In the winter garden, I have 1015 and Vidalia onions in one bed. They are about 6" tall right now. I also have strawberries and shallots. The strawberries are starting to take off a bit and the shallots are all about a foot tall. Mid January or so, I will plant my Yukon Gold and Red Lasoda potatoes. I'm currently building 3 4'x12' raised beds for my spring and summer garden. Peppers and Tomatoes will definitely bein the rotation. Probably some pole beans as well.
My bucket garden was a disappointment. After the autopsy of some of the buckets, it seems that 2 1/2" holes in the center of a 5 gallon bucket was not enough drainage. Many plants drowned or just didn't take off like I wanted. I am switching back to 12" high raised beds.
I am still contemplating building a 16x16 green house and doing an aquaponics system. Boss lady is not convinced yet.
In the winter garden, I have 1015 and Vidalia onions in one bed. They are about 6" tall right now. I also have strawberries and shallots. The strawberries are starting to take off a bit and the shallots are all about a foot tall. Mid January or so, I will plant my Yukon Gold and Red Lasoda potatoes. I'm currently building 3 4'x12' raised beds for my spring and summer garden. Peppers and Tomatoes will definitely bein the rotation. Probably some pole beans as well.
My bucket garden was a disappointment. After the autopsy of some of the buckets, it seems that 2 1/2" holes in the center of a 5 gallon bucket was not enough drainage. Many plants drowned or just didn't take off like I wanted. I am switching back to 12" high raised beds.
I am still contemplating building a 16x16 green house and doing an aquaponics system. Boss lady is not convinced yet.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:06 pm to convertedtiger
You can see the garlic in the middle and how sporadic the carrot and onion sprouted on the right.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 11:49 am to jyoung1
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Planted about 25 lettuce of different varieties. Were all eaten down that same night
I planted some winter radishes and daikon in early November. They were doing pretty good until one morning I woke up and a damn rabbit had eaten the whole bed.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:21 pm to Centinel
My garden expansion project has begun.
ETA: On top of widening the garden, I also went another layer of landscaping timber high. Plan to add more dirt for better drainage.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:16 pm to PillageUrVillage
Nice, I’m planning to do two more 4x8 beds with 2x12’s.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:18 pm to PillageUrVillage
If you look in my pic above, you can see originally how big I prepped the ground for my garden. After framing up and taking a step back I said “oh shite” and cut it almost in half.
I’ll probably expand back out next year though. Baby steps haha
Posted on 12/30/19 at 8:37 pm to BallsEleven
I can tell
I don’t think I’ll go any bigger than this. It’s 16’ X 24’ now. If I wanted to plant some lagniappe, I’d probably just do it in boxes/containers.
I don’t think I’ll go any bigger than this. It’s 16’ X 24’ now. If I wanted to plant some lagniappe, I’d probably just do it in boxes/containers.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 5:19 pm to PillageUrVillage
That was my original size then I went to 12x16. I kept the timbers to easily expand out when time comes.
Do you do any kind of weed barrier? I laid one down but I’m not sure if it will be keeping the roots from working their way down past the bottom of the timbers.
Do you do any kind of weed barrier? I laid one down but I’m not sure if it will be keeping the roots from working their way down past the bottom of the timbers.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 6:20 pm to BallsEleven
A couple years ago, at my old place, I laid down black plastic between the rows before covering them with mulch. It worked very well. Haven’t done it since, though. Usually I have enough mulch between the rows to where I don’t have a weed problem. On top the rows I usually get a few weeds. But I try to lay the mulch on pretty thick on top of the rows, too.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:26 pm to BallsEleven
Looking this year to grow some tomatoes from seeds. Will be my first time doing anything from seed. After doing a little research looks simple enough. Ive always just bought small plants from HD and grown boom easy. But someone made a comment last season on here that changed my mind. They stated "why grow the same basic crops you can buy at store. Grow some of the more rarer types."
Really made sense. So after looking at seeds on Reimer seeds my question is which ones? There are so freaking many. I wont be making sauce with any. Mostly used in salads or on a burger. Any recommendations.
Also any other recommendations for things i should grow from seeds vs buying at home depot/local nursery?
Really made sense. So after looking at seeds on Reimer seeds my question is which ones? There are so freaking many. I wont be making sauce with any. Mostly used in salads or on a burger. Any recommendations.
Also any other recommendations for things i should grow from seeds vs buying at home depot/local nursery?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:05 pm to GatorReb
Tomatoes are stupid easy. Even when other things wouldn't grow because I was over watering and not using a heat mat, the tomatoes sprouted easily.
The thing I like about Reimer is they break down the seeds into a ton of categories. Take a peak in the slicing tomatoes section. Think about your area as well. Down in south Louisiana, I look for heat and humid tolerant plants first. After I get a good list together I narrow down for my favorite few. Pillage and some others can give you suggestions based on taste though.
As far as other things to grow, yourself and how much space you have are your only limitations. Think about what you actually use.
For me, I use garlic in just about everything, so that makes up the majority of my winter garden. In the summer, I will have green beans, cucumbers, okra, squash, and zucchini because we use that the most. At first I wasn't going to do tomato since we never use them but then I thought about making my own salsa so I decided to plant a few. I still have way less than most people though. It doesn't help if you start producing all this product that wastes on your counter.
You can also do other things around the yard. My kids can eat their weight in blue berries so I have 4 in the front yard. One of my go to summer drinks is a greyhound so I got a ruby red grapefruit tree.
The thing I like about Reimer is they break down the seeds into a ton of categories. Take a peak in the slicing tomatoes section. Think about your area as well. Down in south Louisiana, I look for heat and humid tolerant plants first. After I get a good list together I narrow down for my favorite few. Pillage and some others can give you suggestions based on taste though.
As far as other things to grow, yourself and how much space you have are your only limitations. Think about what you actually use.
For me, I use garlic in just about everything, so that makes up the majority of my winter garden. In the summer, I will have green beans, cucumbers, okra, squash, and zucchini because we use that the most. At first I wasn't going to do tomato since we never use them but then I thought about making my own salsa so I decided to plant a few. I still have way less than most people though. It doesn't help if you start producing all this product that wastes on your counter.
You can also do other things around the yard. My kids can eat their weight in blue berries so I have 4 in the front yard. One of my go to summer drinks is a greyhound so I got a ruby red grapefruit tree.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:35 pm to BallsEleven
quote:
Tomatoes are stupid easy.
Yeah thats always been my experience. Ive just never looked into the option of ordering seeds from a site and the options are quite overwhelming lol.
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