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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:36 am to
Sorry that’s 3-4 36lb bags on probably 6500-7000sqft (by the time you take off driveways porches patios flowerbeds)

So I’m probably 16-22lbs/1000sqft till July, every 3-6 weeks or so, then about half that till it goes dormant, every 8 weeks or so
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:27 pm to
I made a standalone post about this, bu does anyone know if this is Johnsongrass or another type of weed or grass? Most of the yard is St Aug normally. The shite is everywhere and is growing really fast. I've been at this house for 3 years and I don't think I've seen this pop up - any ideas?











This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:34 pm
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:25 pm to
Did you over seed last fall?
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:27 pm to
Torpedo grass I think. I'm about to re-sod my backyard and add drainage because of it. It has taken over about 70% of my backyard. Is it in a wet area?




Edited to add a second pic. I see you added more photos and it does appear to be growing a little differently than what I'm dealing with.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

Did you over seed last fall?


I actually didn't seed at all - only did a bonus S weed and feed a month ago.

One thing is that my neighbors planted rye seed last fall - I guess it's possible it blew into my yard? Whatever it is, it's grows ridiculously fast over the last week. Almost 6 inches a week or so
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

Torpedo grass I think. I'm about to re-sod my backyard and add drainage because of it. It has taken over about 70% of my backyard. Is it in a wet area?


Normally it seems to grow near fencelines where it's wetter/lower. Now it seems be everywhere - is has been a wet late winter tho.
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1830 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:52 pm to
The torpedo grass I'm dealing with grows about 3 times faster than my centipede. I've lost the fight in my backyard. Been dealing with it for two years. I think I'm two weeks out from them coming kill everything, pull it all out, bring in new dirt and sod with St. Augustine. I have spots that will hold water for two weeks after a good rain.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25270 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:19 am to
Some people I know suggested it may be Cogon:

Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:36 am to
quote:

One thing is that my neighbors planted rye seed last fall - I guess it's possible it blew into my yard? Whatever it is, it's grows ridiculously fast over the last week. Almost 6 inches a week or so


I'd bet that is what it is. I overseed with annual ryegrass yearly, and it looks a lot like mine. Once it get established it grows quickly, and this time of year, the warm days and cool nights makes it grow like crazy. 4-5 inches a week is about what we are experiencing now.

That's a lot of grass seed to blow into your yard, howveer. You might want to ask your neighbor if he happened to put down his excess or 'left over" in your yard. That stuff will get everywhere and grow, though--border gardens, monkey grass and liriope edges, cracks in brick patio, seams in concrete driveway, etc.

And don't worry, when it gets really hot in a month it'll all die off.
Posted by IntenseKid
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2014
2760 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:47 am to
No yellow or orange rings. The spots from last year look less brown. The fresher spots that seemed to develop more recently are a little darker brown. All the spots are close to our concrete the further out you go towards our fence we don’t have any brown circles at all.

If I had to estimate I would say we have 10-12 of these little brown spots.

Will try to post a picture this afternoon.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 7:48 am
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9341 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 7:23 pm to
Have a couple of issues. FYI I just put down some 24-2-11 on my St Aug.

Backyard seems to be growing fine, but the front seems stunted in many areas and I'm not sure why.

Could soil compaction be an issue? It's closer to the driveway and along the sidewalks where kids often play, and they've been doing more of that lately. I'm not sure what else could be the cause. In late summer last year I had to hit it a few times with talstar to get rid of webworms.

Also the kyllinga seems to be back with a vengeance. Given that I just put down 24-2-11 within the last few days, how long should I wait to hit it with Certainty to take out the kyllinga?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:03 am to
Centipede:

Dethatch every other year early spring (I bag)

Early Spring core aerate, followed by 29-0-10 fert.

Celsius WG 2 weeks later for weeds with Bifenthrin blended in for insects. Repeat in fall for button weed if needed.

Spot treat fungus as needed with off the shelf Spectracide.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2238 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:42 am to
FML
So far have dethatched
Weed Free Zone
Sedge Ender
Watered

I guess I am going to try fungicide next to see if the grass starts coming back. If that works I will hit with another dose of sedge ender and weed free zone. I think the ones I had from last year may not be as potent since weeds are still poking through.

This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 11:43 am
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2238 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 11:43 am to
I need to aerate but don’t have a truck. How big and heavy are the aerators if I rent one?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 1:26 pm to
You put that much nitrogen on centipede?
Posted by Red Solo Cup
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
444 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 9:00 pm to
That’s an annual rye.
Posted by SATNIGHTS
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2008
2238 posts
Posted on 4/28/19 at 5:25 pm to
I tested an area of my soil (Centipede)

PH 7.5 (should be between 5/6)
Nitrogen "Very Low" (lowest range on the kit)
Phosphorous Medium / Low
Potash - High

Thoughts?
I am thinking I need to get the PH down first and then get the nitrogen up but am wondering what order to do this in as I still have weeds thriving.

Step 1: Lower PH
Step 2: Add Nitrogen
Step 3: Spray Weed Free Zone / Sedge Hammer
Step 4: Profit?
Posted by lsu1980
Member since Feb 2007
1991 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:13 am to
I have to lower the pH for centipede from 6.8.

Really confused by this. They told me to put a total of 48 pounds of elemental sulfur dust in 3 separate applications (16 pounds each) no sooner than 4 weeks apart and only when the temperature is less than 85 degrees.

Everything I have read says never to apply more than 5 pounds/1000sqft at one time. I have 1200 sqft to treat.

This will take years to get 48 pounds down. I put one 4 pound bag a couple of weeks ago and may not get anymore down until fall because of the temperature restriction.

I put 15-0-15 in early April and it looks green but is thin in spots and the growth really seems stunted.

May put Milorganite in a couple of weeks.
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
745 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:33 pm to
I have the exact same pH with my centipede and was told by LSU to only use 3.5 lbs of sulfur per 1,000 every six months. It's best practice to aerate and then lay the sulfur down as it could get caught in the top layer of compacted soil and the conversion to sulfuric acid will harm the lawn.
Posted by lsu1980
Member since Feb 2007
1991 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 4:24 pm to
Yeah this was the LSU extension office who told me it was ok to put 16 pounds of sulfur on 1200 sqft at one time. Crazy. Good thing I read up on it and only put 4.

This sod was put down just 2 years ago and the soil does not appear to be compacted. I had the back and front resodded at the same time and the back is thriving. Must have had a bad load of dirt from a different location to finish up the job.
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