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Tigerdroppings' duty to Louisiana
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 9/27/19 at 1:48 pm
This message is a dire request to Chicken.
As The Advocate and Times Picayune both die, your website will be left as the most important print media for the state of Louisiana. Most of what is posted on this website is mindless, disgusting, or simply entertaining. That's the nature of any online message board born in the 1990s or early 2000s. For whatever reason or reasons, TD rose while others fell to become the scion and leader in Louisiana print. It could be much more than it is.
Right now, as The Times Picayune/Advocate foolishly moves to make its internet print available only to those who pay for it, I hope the administration of TD is considering both its duty to Louisiana and an opportunity to avoid becoming the next dinosaur that rested on its laurels.
You have become wealthy largely from the words others have freely given and written, your users. You have moved past other LSU message boards, and somehow, past the storied Times Picayune. Could you imagine this just 16 years ago? Continue as is, as professional press dies out, and your boards become dry and barren. The stream of professional press stories feeds and ripens your message boards. What happens when that stream is gone?
Soon, Louisiana will be without a true newspaper of public record. I urge you, Chicken, to ponder or at least consider TD's role in this process and TD's duty to the people of Louisiana.
Democracy requires a free and professional press corps. With the impending bankruptcy of the TP/Advocate, what becomes of Louisiana's future? Who will be a fair watch guard for government and industry? It will not be TV or radio media with their 30 second attention spans and focus on reporters whose smarts and skills are secondary to their voices and looks.
Someone will fill the vacuum. No one knows what it will look like. Will TD become the vanguard again? I pray TD will consider its duty to the people who made it powerful and wealthy. Duty, not the inevitable wealth that will follow, I hope will be your motivation in ensuring free press continue in Louisiana.
I propose that TD look into the possibility of hiring the best reporters and columnists from the TP/Advocate and start its own online paper. Load up on the best and your fields will flourish with a harvest far greater than those paltry seeds.
As The Advocate and Times Picayune both die, your website will be left as the most important print media for the state of Louisiana. Most of what is posted on this website is mindless, disgusting, or simply entertaining. That's the nature of any online message board born in the 1990s or early 2000s. For whatever reason or reasons, TD rose while others fell to become the scion and leader in Louisiana print. It could be much more than it is.
Right now, as The Times Picayune/Advocate foolishly moves to make its internet print available only to those who pay for it, I hope the administration of TD is considering both its duty to Louisiana and an opportunity to avoid becoming the next dinosaur that rested on its laurels.
You have become wealthy largely from the words others have freely given and written, your users. You have moved past other LSU message boards, and somehow, past the storied Times Picayune. Could you imagine this just 16 years ago? Continue as is, as professional press dies out, and your boards become dry and barren. The stream of professional press stories feeds and ripens your message boards. What happens when that stream is gone?
Soon, Louisiana will be without a true newspaper of public record. I urge you, Chicken, to ponder or at least consider TD's role in this process and TD's duty to the people of Louisiana.
Democracy requires a free and professional press corps. With the impending bankruptcy of the TP/Advocate, what becomes of Louisiana's future? Who will be a fair watch guard for government and industry? It will not be TV or radio media with their 30 second attention spans and focus on reporters whose smarts and skills are secondary to their voices and looks.
Someone will fill the vacuum. No one knows what it will look like. Will TD become the vanguard again? I pray TD will consider its duty to the people who made it powerful and wealthy. Duty, not the inevitable wealth that will follow, I hope will be your motivation in ensuring free press continue in Louisiana.
I propose that TD look into the possibility of hiring the best reporters and columnists from the TP/Advocate and start its own online paper. Load up on the best and your fields will flourish with a harvest far greater than those paltry seeds.
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 4:50 pm to TulaneLSU
TulaneLSU, I appreciate your post...and trust me, I have thought about this long and hard. We have a plan, or really just an strong idea, that I can't divulge at the moment but it addresses the concerns of your post.
Shoot me an email offline if you want as I have some questions for you.
Shoot me an email offline if you want as I have some questions for you.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:05 pm to Chicken
I'll take the fashion column...
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:11 pm to RummelTiger
Give me the Street Beat
Posted on 9/28/19 at 12:57 pm to RummelTiger
Posted on 9/28/19 at 3:15 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:The sooner, the better.
With the impending bankruptcy of the TP/Advocate,
I would really like to see the actual paid circulation of the Baton Rouge Advocate.
I talked to Richard Manship about 5 months ago and he indicated the BR Advocate is struggling not only with circulation but also with advertising revenue.
I asked him if he would be interested in buying the Advocate back from Georges and he just laughed.
This post was edited on 9/28/19 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 9/28/19 at 7:13 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
I propose that TD look into the possibility of hiring the best reporters and columnists from the TP/Advocate
Why bother when they already have their all-star 'Larry Leo'.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:06 pm to RummelTiger
Is Peej going to be covering weather in this new TD newspaper?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 8:46 pm to TulaneLSU
Hit me up baw. I’ve got a worthless journalism degree.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 9:43 am to Chicken
looking forward to the mikelbr personals board
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:25 am to Winston Cup
You know, I kind of rolled my eyes at the OP but the rest of y'all have really sold me on the merits of a Tigerdroppings newspaper.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 6:58 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:
Is Peej going to be covering weather in this new TD newspaper?
it sure as hell won't be any sports picks
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:22 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
I propose that TD look into the possibility of hiring the best reporters and columnists from the TP/Advocate and start its own online paper.
And just like that, PT board just called Tigerdroppings fake news and out to get Trump
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:34 pm to Chicken
When are we going to be able to buy stock in TD?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:23 am to TulaneLSU
You are proposing chicken hire writers on the street and yet not pay the posters who helped build this kingdom over the past 15 years?
You are worried about TD becoming the next dinosaur yet are wanting them to model themselves after the institutions that have been buried?
I think you are coming from good intentions but i am not grasping exactly what you are getting at. I don't think people want to come to TD to read articles by writers.
You are worried about TD becoming the next dinosaur yet are wanting them to model themselves after the institutions that have been buried?
I think you are coming from good intentions but i am not grasping exactly what you are getting at. I don't think people want to come to TD to read articles by writers.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:26 am to Chad504boy
quote:
I don't think people want to come to TD to read articles by writers.
For the record, if they take the advice of those posters upthread and make Larry Leo the investigative reporter and peej the sports and weather guy, I am 100% in for at least a couple of weeks.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:19 am to Chad504boy
quote:
I think you are coming from good intentions but i am not grasping exactly what you are getting at. I don't think people want to come to TD to read articles by writers.
This. I can read pre-canned bullshite articles on the Onion if I want. Forums are popular because they’re a direct line to the pulse of society and welcome input and discussion from all. I don’t need some crappy Advocate journalist who needs to hit their quota feeding me uninformed articles all day long, I get exactly what I need and want here, for free. If I or anyone else wanted what Advocate writers had to offer, I’d read their paper.
OP is under the impression that TD feeds off of “articles written by journalists” and that isn’t the case. TD feeds off of real life events, and probably Twitter if we *have* to choose a media outlet. Journalism is dying and I’d rather if it didn’t pull TD into the grave with it
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:58 am to LSUgrad08112
Yeah I'm very curious as to what route Chicken is attempting to take if he wants to get into "official" news. It will be hard to be 100% true news while still getting good advertisers.
I'm just going to use book stores as an example. We do have free press in the United States so you can make and print any books you want. So you are running what you think is the greatest and most free speech book store ever. You will have every kind of book from every author. But now you start carrying this certain book and the main publishers, who aren't really that many, don't like it. They blacklist you. Now your book store is missing 70% of all books. Sure you are carrying the fringe books now, but the main books that most people like you don't have. You're business is now overextended and your monthly operating costs are too much so you are going out of business.
I say be very careful Chicken and talk to many people to make sure you have all angles worked out. Principles can come with a heavy cost in this country so make sure you don't overextend and get the carpet ripped out from under you.
I'm just going to use book stores as an example. We do have free press in the United States so you can make and print any books you want. So you are running what you think is the greatest and most free speech book store ever. You will have every kind of book from every author. But now you start carrying this certain book and the main publishers, who aren't really that many, don't like it. They blacklist you. Now your book store is missing 70% of all books. Sure you are carrying the fringe books now, but the main books that most people like you don't have. You're business is now overextended and your monthly operating costs are too much so you are going out of business.
I say be very careful Chicken and talk to many people to make sure you have all angles worked out. Principles can come with a heavy cost in this country so make sure you don't overextend and get the carpet ripped out from under you.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:31 pm to zatetic
So, since petty people won't like it, he should be afraid to do the right thing?
Lovely
Lovely
Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:13 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
You are worried about TD becoming the next dinosaur yet are wanting them to model themselves after the institutions that have been buried?
Yea I dont get it.
Said business closes down and the first intention is to hire all those people and continue the failed business
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