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re: Why don’t we hear much about alcohol and the effect on the heart?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:44 pm to ronricks
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:44 pm to ronricks
quote:Thats not the premise dumbass
Mingo. You and I go to a bar. We both drink 6 beers in 20 minutes. What happens? Are we both going to experience same results? Why or why not?
You got to a bar and have 6 drinks
The next night you go to a bar and have zero drinks
Measure your heart rate those two nights and report back
Your original post is arguing there are some people who will have no change in the scenario above
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 12:45 pm
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Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:48 pm to lsupride87
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Your original post is arguing there are some people who will have no change in the scenario above
Read it again. I never used to words ‘at all’ or ‘no’ or ‘none’ or any other word you or Mingo have unsuccessfully tried to assert. I’ve said we are all different and will experience different and unequal outcomes. That doesn’t mean ‘none’ or ‘no’.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:49 pm to ronricks
Umm, you said this
Your genetic predisposition only sets your ceiling friend. Whether or not you get there depends on your health choices
quote:Which is 100% false and the same thing.
You are only as good as your genetic predisposition.
Your genetic predisposition only sets your ceiling friend. Whether or not you get there depends on your health choices
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:54 pm to lsupride87
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Which is 100% false and the same thing
No, it isn’t. Again nowhere did I use the words ‘at all’ ‘no’ or ‘none’. You and Mingo said I did though. Why?
Your genetic predisposition matters as far as your metabolic and cardiovascular health goes. Some can do more than others and live longer. That’s all I’ve said. You then said I used absolutes which never happened.
Your numbers mean diddly shite to anyone else here. You seem to be triggered by me pointing that out?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:55 pm to ronricks
quote:Correct
Your genetic predisposition matters as far as your metabolic and cardiovascular health goes
But, you are “only as good as your genetic predisposition AND YOUR LIFESTYLE CHOICES”
And my Op never once mentions how my results will be the same for everyone. Only that alcohol affects the heart which is a 100% fact. You started an argument with a mouse in your pocket I guess
My only premise is why isn’t it talked about more
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 12:57 pm to ronricks
quote:
Again nowhere did I use the words ‘at all’ ‘no’ or ‘none’.
You used the word only which is a definitive all or nothing word.
quote:
Your genetic predisposition matters as far as your metabolic and cardiovascular health goes. Some can do more than others and live longer. That’s all I’ve said.
No it’s not. You said that genetic disposition is the only thing that matters. It seems like you are no longer saying that, which is good because your original statement is one of if not the dumbest things I’ve ever read.
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You then said I used absolutes which never happened.
He didn’t, which is very unpride like
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
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AND YOUR LIFESTYLE CHOICES”
My friend Michael is dead. We were using the same exact steroids, hGH, and insulin from the same exact brands and sources for the same exact time (years). Why am I alive at 45 and he died at 36? We both made extremely bad choices. How have I outlived him? It sure isn’t because of my choices I can tell you that.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:06 pm to ronricks
quote:If michael didn’t do steroids and make extremely bad other choices as you say do you think it would have helped michael?
My friend Michael is dead. We were using the same exact steroids, hGH, and insulin from the same exact brands and sources for the same exact time (years). Why am I alive at 45 and he died at 36? We both made extremely bad choices. How have I outlived him? It sure isn’t because of my choices I can tell you that.
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
You said I used the words ‘at all’
He said I used the words ‘no’ and ‘none’
I said none of those things. Why did you try and not only lie but twist my words? Genetic predisposition is a gigantic factor in how long one lives even considering lifestyle choices. Does that make you feel better?
He said I used the words ‘no’ and ‘none’
I said none of those things. Why did you try and not only lie but twist my words? Genetic predisposition is a gigantic factor in how long one lives even considering lifestyle choices. Does that make you feel better?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:09 pm to ronricks
quote:
Genetic predisposition is a gigantic factor in how long one lives even considering lifestyle choices.
So just to be clear, you are no longer arguing it is the only factor?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I never spoke in absolutes nor did I ever use the words ‘at all’ ‘no’ or ‘none’ like you said I did. The biggest factor of mortality is predisposed genes and genetics regardless of lifestyle choices or conditions. I’ve never said someone can’t shorten their life I posted the opposite and even gave several examples.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:16 pm to ronricks
quote:Then why are you arguing against my original post which just said alcohol effects the heart and never once says it’s the same for everyone and genetics don’t matter?
never spoke in absolutes nor did I ever use the words ‘at all’ ‘no’ or ‘none’ like you said I did. The biggest factor of mortality is predisposed genes and genetics regardless of lifestyle choices or conditions. I’ve never said someone can’t shorten their life I posted the opposite and even gave several examples.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:17 pm to ronricks
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I never spoke in absolutes
quote:
You are only as good as your genetic predisposition.
This sentence means that genetic predisposition is the only thing that matters. Ie, lifestyle choices etc do not matter
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I’ve never said someone can’t shorten their life
That’s exactly what you said
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:22 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s exactly what you said
Then why did I give tons of examples to the contrary? Why would I even waste my time? You’ve tried to be a psychic mind reader and assign things I didn’t even say to further your arguments. Someone who would do such isn’t too confident in their own words. We are all different and have unequal outcomes even when factoring/considering lifestyle and health choices.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:26 pm to ronricks
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Then why did I give tons of examples to the contrary?
Because what you said was one of the dumbest things ever written I suppose
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We are all different and have unequal outcomes even when factoring/considering lifestyle and health choices.
Your original statement said lifestyle and health choices didn’t matter
This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
This was the 9th post in this thread. Go troll someone else.
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Nowhere have I said abuse can’t ‘worsen’ them. I said the opposite. We all have different tolerances and lifespans due to genetic predisposition. You might smoke 6 packs a day and live to 50. I might smoke 6 packs a day and live to 70. We both ‘shortened’ our lifespan but my organs were simply better than yours so I lasted longer. That’s all I have said and it’s a fact.
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:30 pm to ronricks
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This was the 9th post in this thread.
Yeah, you’re waffling back and forth while continuing to defend your original statement. We’re in total agreement that makes no sense
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:53 pm to ronricks
quote:And that's your answer to the question posed in the OP? Take the loss and move on.
Think about what you just typed. Nowhere have I said abuse can’t ‘worsen’ them. I said the opposite. We all have different tolerances and lifespans due to genetic predisposition. You might smoke 6 packs a day and live to 50. I might smoke 6 packs a day and live to 70. We both ‘shortened’ our lifespan but my organs were simply better than yours so I lasted longer. That’s all I have said and it’s a fact. I can give you a real world example if you would like one?
Posted on 1/20/25 at 1:55 pm to ronricks
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This post was edited on 1/20/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/22/25 at 1:25 pm to ronricks
This thread has been a joy.
@ronricks:
@ronricks:
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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