re: Weight lifting suppliments for football players

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I had a roommate about 7-8 years ago that was a hard gainer. That dude had to eat 5000-6000 calories/day to put on any weight. It was sickening.

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At the end of High school and early college we all decided to start lifting only heavy, running the lakes, and walking 18 holes with a maxed out XVest on.

I can remember going through a box of eggs a week. A gallon of milk a day. shite tons of water and salt. And a few cases of diet Coke a week. We were all eating 6-8000 calories a day. Four full meals. Naps after class and then full nights sleep. We were poor, so we mainly ate pork loins and bacon pieces. Then beer and taco bell a few nights a week.

And we still got leaner. I can remember running around the rec center drinking my second protein shake of the workout and forcing myself to not puke

The leanest I've ever been was also when I was eating the most.

Ah youth.

lsu777 knows his shite. I would heed his advice. Your son really doesn’t need a lot of supps. Protein and creatine are really all you need. Start tracking his caloric and macro nutrient intake to make sure he’s eating enough to gain weight. Also, gaining weight via muscle mass takes time. It will likely take months. Also, don’t forget to make sure he eats some vegetables along the way. Leafy greens are good for any athlete.

I will say this has been an enjoyable post to read. It just reminds me of how much conflicting information is out there.. especially when it comes to health and fitness.

My advice:
Eat a protein and a carb with every meal. Steak and potatoes, eggs and oatmeal, chicken and rice.

Aim for 3-4 good meals a day. Protein shakes and peanut butter sandwiches for snacks.

Fruits and vegetables are still good. I know certain vegetables like broccoli and spinach have nutrients that help with testosterone production.

Sleep more. 8-9 hours a day.

Whole milk.

Try to eat way more than you think necessary. I remember scoffing when my football coaches told me to eat half a dozen eggs for breakfast. Guess what? I stayed a skinny 140lb wide receiver.

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An easy way to gain weight is simply this

Breakfast-6 eggs, couple pieces of toast, 3-4oz ground beef and. 59g protein shake

Snack- 50g protein shake with a piece of fruit

Lunch- 12oz of ground beef with a cup or two of rice

Snack- 50g protein shake

Dinner- 12oz meat and some form of carb

Before bed- 50g protein shake

Middle of the night-75g protein shake

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Holy crap, I feel like upchucking just thinking about all that. But you're right. In reality especially during Summer workouts where they are working out (running and weights) like 5 hrs a day in the heat, I'm sure he hasn't gotten enough calories.

Of course, right now things are on hold a bit even though they are rotating in 5 players for workouts, it's not near the same as they really need. We made him some protein shakes even with some spinach for some greens. But ran out of the protein so I figured, before we go and buy more... why not ask here.

For now, I purchased a jug of creatine and another of whey protein. I told him we would try 2 months of it to see if he can see results in recovery, strength, energy, and of course size. I'm sure there won't be huge results but maybe enough to know if creatine actually works on him or not.

Thanks for the responses. I guess I'll start buying eggs by the box instead of the dozen.

This is gonna sound funny, but real dirty rice works too.

Meaning liver and gizzards and white rice.

Organ meat and simple carbs

Honestly I did GOMAD for like two months in high school

Gallon of Milk a Day

I did regular grocery store whole milk

Honestly if you used Fairlife Whole Milk... the ultra filtered stuff... less sugar and more protein and calcium and still a frick ton of calories... it sounds incredible

Ahem what I posted is a proven system of building made and not burning out on eating.