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lsu777
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Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
So some studies that caught my interest are showing Viagra and Cialis can help turn White fat into brown fat. This is a big deal as brown fat generates heat and burns white fat when activated. Essentially this is a "hack" (God I hate that fricking word)


Also V&C have been shown to increase muscle protein synthesis (MPS), increase the pump in the muscle and on turn decrease muscle fatigue.

Definitely shows a lot of promise at lower doses to be a daily drug that most males should take. When you account for the positive effects Cialis has on the prostate, blood pressure, sexual health etc really not seeing why most males over 40 shouldn't be on it unless they have a condition it would harm.

Wanna hear your thoughts? I know John Meadows is big on the Cialis and citrulline pump. Never used Cialis but might have to give it a shot here soon as a daily health supplement.

Here are some studies on it

Browning of white fat

Viagra helps burn fat

increase in MPS and decrease in muscle fatigue

Cialis increases muscle

Cialis reduces fat



OleWarSkuleAlum
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
I’m extremely interested in the browning of white fat that is recently coming out. No clue about cialis but I know there’s peptides for it. I’ve never tried it as I’m very wary by having to order from sketchy websites.


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
I know frag works but it is supposedly hard as shite to find a quality product.

I know mk-677 works really good but makes you hold water and makes you hungry as shit, kind of negating the fat burning properties of the high releases it forces.

I know GW works and improves health markers but I am still Leary of long term use due to the whole cancer on rats at extremely high doses thing. It is kind of miracle drug other than that.

But yes Cialis as a daily health supplement intrigues me.

Btw if you get a chance step into the supplement science discussion, I posted some that I think you would be interested in from a health standpoint, if nothing else I would like you and some of the keto guys take on the studies.


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Rep520
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
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Also V&C have been shown to increase muscle protein synthesis (MPS), increase the pump in the muscle and on turn decrease muscle fatigue. 


This always has struck me as the most direct benefit. Optimal bloodflow is SO important in recovery and muscle building.

Viagra and Cialis are designed to optimize bloodflow. It has always surprised me a bit very few people talk about them in the non-boner context.


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Yea I mean it seems to be something most should be taking, especially those that lift.


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DeafJam73
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
It will be hard to powerclean with an erection.


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Neither of these tend to do these if take while lifting. They increase blood flow everywhere when used in this setting.

People are not reporting gym boners on it.


Hu_Flung_Pu
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
I'm gonna sneak this in here since mods delete weird shite. What sarm is best for fat loss?


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Best? Prolly Gw but none of the sarms actually burn fat but gw will help with endurance and ton and actually make you want to do cardio. Helps with health too.

I like masupps, good guy and quality products. Take 20mg a day.

Mk does burn fat by gh release but it makes you bloat and so hungry it becomes useless for anything other the a bulk. Goat on a bulk though.

If you can find quality frag, it's the best pepetide for fatloss


Boring
Member since Feb 2019
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Interdasting, I wonder if this will help breakthrough the stigma of "LMAO U NEED A PENIS PILL!" and make this stuff easier to get.

I've fricked around with some tadalafil (cialis) from a couple of online SARM places just to see what would happen. I've used both tabs and liquids. As far as its intended purpose, the boner increases were nothing to write home about. And I tried all kinds of varying doses. Maybe if I actually had ED I would notice it more? Either way, the heartburn was damn near unbearable and some batches gave me bad headaches and back pain. If they could figure out a way around the searing chest pain then I'd be on board for taking it daily.


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Hu_Flung_Pu
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dammit...I just want more help than diet


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Rep520
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
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It will be hard to powerclean with an erection.


I see what you did there.

I've always thought it was borderline impossible to get an erection while seriously working out. All the blood is going different places than the penis.

I work out in the summer in 100 degree plus heat in the garage and experience signifcant shrinkage.


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Big_Slim
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
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People are not reporting gym boners on it.




Recipe for disaster


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Andychapman13
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Viagra gives me the worst kind of headache! And too much Cialis gives me a stuffy head as well, but it is bearable. I have a shite ton of it so I might see if I get anything out of a regular low dose. The Wim Hof breathing and cold exposure therapy is supposed to do the same thing though, it converts white to brown AT.


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Yea there are quite a few studies on cryotherapy turning white fat into brown fat.


BurningHeart
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Do we know the dosages and effectiveness?

The first study was 100 mg viagra for 7 days which is a lot. And doesn't mention how effective this dose was at burning fat specifically, plus I'd be concerned about tolerance and side effects (headaches and stuffy nose)


This post was edited on 7/9 at 6:25 pm


lsu777
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westlake
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
I don't. I will be ok the beach next week land will try and do some reading


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DeafJam73
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
If it’s about blood flow, wouldn’t L-Arginine have the same effect?


lsu777
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Don't think arginine works nearly as well.


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Hot Carl
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re: Viagra/Cialis (PDE5 inhibitors) burn fat and build muscle
Do the liquid peptides work the same? Talafadil?


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