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re: The Ketogenic Diet 2019 and FREE Keto Coaching by OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:47 pm to Mac
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:47 pm to Mac
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I'm trying to use myfitnesspal to help me with Keto again... had some spicy fried craklins from Billy's this morning but they don't have anything similar to that on the app. Pork rinds have 9g of fat and 17g of protein but I definitely don't think there are 17 grams of protein in the fried pig fat I was munching on this am.
How do you think I should list the 1/4 pound of spicy craklin on the app? TIA
I’m not familiar with MFP because I use carb manager. Is there a way to manually add a food and you add the macros from the label? I do this all the time on carb manager.
It’s on carb manager listed as this...
Not sure if it’s correct since I don’t have a bag.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:23 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
That's not exactly what I was looking for but thanks for your help. It's Billy's fried craklins.. a local cajun boundin shop. They don't have bags with nutritional value listed.
Any Acadiana locals got any advice?
Any Acadiana locals got any advice?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:27 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
So what happens if you just eat extremely low carb - day under 20 carbs- eating primarily protein and very low carb vegetables? In other words - cut the carbs - but don’t eat all the fats?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:33 pm to Lsupimp
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So what happens if you just eat extremely low carb - day under 20 carbs- eating primarily protein and very low carb vegetables? In other words - cut the carbs - but don’t eat all the fats?
This is essentially what I do, and it has worked very well for me. I have made very good strength gains and haven't gained any fat. I personally don't think it's all that complicated and scientific, avoid carbs and you'll be alright. The only time the specific macro percentages down to the calorie are really important is if you are some type of extremely high level athlete trying to maximize performance down to the enth degree.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:09 pm to Lsupimp
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So what happens if you just eat extremely low carb - day under 20 carbs- eating primarily protein and very low carb vegetables? In other words - cut the carbs - but don’t eat all the fats
If you eat in a caloric deficit, you lose weight, if you eat in a caloric surplus, you gain weight.
Same as always with every diet. Essentially you ate like you should though. Protein has by far the highest thermic effect.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:14 pm to Lsupimp
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So what happens if you just eat extremely low carb - day under 20 carbs- eating primarily protein and very low carb vegetables? In other words - cut the carbs - but don’t eat all the fats?
So long as you eat enough fat to maintain hormones and such... you'd be just fine. You should eat a minimum of 20% of your calories as fat. You can do less than that for short periods of time (having PTSD flashbacks of RFL before my wedding) but long-term it will cause issues.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:27 pm to Lsupimp
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So what happens if you just eat extremely low carb - day under 20 carbs- eating primarily protein and very low carb vegetables? In other words - cut the carbs - but don’t eat all the fats?
A process called gluconeogenesis. Essentially the protein turns into glycogen. I’ve pwrsonally tested this doing a 49F/50P/1C macro profile. I felt like garbage and was gaining weight at a rapid pace. The protein also spikes (Oh no here comes Hulk to get mad) your insulin so it isn’t ideal.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 4:36 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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A process called gluconeogenesis. Essentially the protein turns into glycogen. I’ve pwrsonally tested this doing a 49F/50P/1C macro profile. I felt like garbage and was gaining weight at a rapid pace.
Why do you kill all your credibility? You dramatically changed your diet and gained some water weight. You are obviously knowledgeable about keto, but you, at best, are disenginous, and at worst, flat out lie about anything non keto.
You are like a hyper political leftist that calls Trump a "literal Nazi" and makes every single thing political. It's tiresome and kills any legitimate credibility you may have.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 5:46 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Nope, you're correct therefore I take no issue.
If you were gaining weight then, by definition, you weren't in a caloric deficit, or retained water. You probably just gained some water weight like Mingo pointed out. As you know, Ketosis is highly diuretic, so when you leave Ketosis you'll retain water. I usually lose 10lbs of water on keto, and regain 10lbs coming off of a keto diet.
If you were gaining weight then, by definition, you weren't in a caloric deficit, or retained water. You probably just gained some water weight like Mingo pointed out. As you know, Ketosis is highly diuretic, so when you leave Ketosis you'll retain water. I usually lose 10lbs of water on keto, and regain 10lbs coming off of a keto diet.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:49 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I’m down 21 pounds on this diet since Thanksgiving. Probably 10 from water loss and the other 11 from actual weight loss. The biggest difference is in my belly size. I went from having a huge gut to something that doesn’t show when I put my shirt on. I can see my penis now, I like to say “hi little buddy” all the time.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 6:57 pm to lsufanintexas
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I’m down 21 pounds on this diet since Thanksgiving. Probably 10 from water loss and the other 11 from actual weight loss. The biggest difference is in my belly size. I went from having a huge gut to something that doesn’t show when I put my shirt on. I can see my penis now, I like to say “hi little buddy” all the time.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 7:00 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Well now I’m hopelessly confused. Lol.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 7:38 pm to Lsupimp
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Well now I’m hopelessly confused. Lol.
What are you confused about? I can break it down if needed.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:06 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Just curious how long did it take you to adapt? At what point did you really start to see the benefits? Any benefits or negatives you noticed that you weren’t expecting? Did you have to change your training based on a lack of glucose (i.e. explosive workouts, heavy lifting, etc.)
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:58 am to themasterpater
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Just curious how long did it take you to adapt?
To going into ketosis on my first attempt was probably 5 days. I was solidly fat adapted after 3 months to where I could drop out of ketosis and be back in within 24-48 hours. I just went 3 weeks out of ketosis and was back in at 72hrs.
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At what point did you really start to see the benefits?
Once you enter ketosis on your first run which is normally anywhere from 5-12 days you will immediately start seeing results. When in ketosis your body doesn’t retain water as it would on a SAD. You’ll lose water weight initially and depending on the deficit / fasting protocol you use after the first month you will definitely feel the results around your waist and belt.
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Any benefits or negatives you noticed that you weren’t expecting?
When I first started I had no idea the anti-inflammatory properties this diet had! All the aches and pains, and in my case severe neck pain for over 6 years all disappeared. I also had borderline IBS and constant abdominal issues. I thought it was dairy, but I eat more dairy than ever and I feel outstanding. My microbiome has been reset and I feel way better.
Negative aspects is I’m 6’2” and 185 pounds. Trying to maintain or gain weight on this diet is very tough. I run a very strict program and eat around 3000 calories in order to maintain on workout days and 2500 on non-workout days. Eating 3000 calories on Keto is very tough due to the satiety of the fats. I have to force feed myself most days.
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Did you have to change your training based on a lack of glucose (i.e. explosive workouts, heavy lifting, etc.)
No I haven’t changed my workouts at all. I run the GSLP right now, but I’ve also done insanity max:30 and other various conditioning programs. Sometimes I will do a CKD in which once a month I will eat between 100-400g of carbs. I do notice a performance increase on the core lifts, but that only lasts for 3 days or so.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:58 pm to Shepherd
If I splurge one day and eat a lot more protein than normal, what percentage above my 20% is ok? Can I do 30 to 40% protein and not spike my insulin ?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:51 pm to lsufanintexas
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If I splurge one day and eat a lot more protein than normal, what percentage above my 20% is ok? Can I do 30 to 40% protein and not spike my insulin ?
If it’s a one day thing you will be fine going up to 40%. It depends on your body, but your insulin will rise more than normal so you will feel the effects of that.
BTW you have very powerful testimony and congrats on reversing your T2!
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:28 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Thanks. Besides the weight loss I have so much more energy, Doc and I agreed though that I’m never going to officially be free of T2 but I am just not in the range any more. He said if I go back to being heavy weight and high carb diet then my chances of going into the T2 range could happen again. I’ve got about 15 more pounds to go before I hit my ideal weight of 165. Should hit that by end of March.
I’m supposed to be between 135 and 154 due to my height but man that seems too thin so 165 is my goal.
I’m supposed to be between 135 and 154 due to my height but man that seems too thin so 165 is my goal.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:30 pm to lsufanintexas
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I’m supposed to be between 135 and 154 due to my height but man that seems too thin so 165 is my goal
That's what I thought too, and now I weigh 140, and am stronger than I've ever been.
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