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re: The Ketogenic Diet 2019 and FREE Keto Coaching by OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:58 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
It is not for fiber, it is for potassium without sugar.
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:03 am to zatetic
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It is not for fiber, it is for potassium without sugar.
Drink the ketoaid...also I would rather a client eat dairy, avocados, or fish like Salmon for the potassium as opposed to greens.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 10:53 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
OWSA,
Help me with this argument that I had with Sister in law.
I'm pro Keto.
She has lost weight using a "certified nutritionist".
Sister in law is against fat because it makes you fat because fat attaches to the fat in your body.
I think she's losing weight because she's a virgin and turning 40 this month and has a boy friend that may become fiance soon.
Low fat is info she gets from certified nutritionist by the way.
Help me with this argument that I had with Sister in law.
I'm pro Keto.
She has lost weight using a "certified nutritionist".
Sister in law is against fat because it makes you fat because fat attaches to the fat in your body.
I think she's losing weight because she's a virgin and turning 40 this month and has a boy friend that may become fiance soon.
Low fat is info she gets from certified nutritionist by the way.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:45 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Man, that blue cheese suggestion was a game changer. I guess I just figured salad dressing = carbs = bad. An ounce or 2 of blue cheese added an additional 12+ grams of fat and only 1g protein.
Lunch has been what was really throwing off my numbers... way too much protein and not enough fat. I just logged my lunch and now I'm at:
2% carbs
72% fat
27% protein
Recently my fat has been closer to 60% after lunch which had me playing catch-up at dinner.
Lunch has been what was really throwing off my numbers... way too much protein and not enough fat. I just logged my lunch and now I'm at:
2% carbs
72% fat
27% protein
Recently my fat has been closer to 60% after lunch which had me playing catch-up at dinner.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:51 am to LSU9102
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Sister in law is against fat because it makes you fat because fat attaches to the fat in your body.
Fat only is stored when your insulin spikes (eating carbs) and signals your brain to store the fat. A low fat high carb diet is a valid diet when controlled for calories, but again it must be low fat because the worst possible combination you can do is high fat high carb.
There’s an insane amount of literature on this . My favorite person to listen to speak about the relationship of glucagon-insulin-fat is Dr. Benjamin Bikman. He’s got a million interviews on YouTube.
As to why Keto is superior is because your body is designed to use ketones as it’s main fuel source. Only relatively recently did we start to eat a high carbohydrate diet that fuels the body with the “easy” fuel of glycogen. I could go on for hours there’s a lot of research. IMO for someone wanting to do a body recomp (not just lose weight [skinny fat]) due to the fact Keto is insanely muscle sparing and anti-inflammatory it’s what I would choose.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:54 am to terd ferguson
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Man, that blue cheese suggestion was a game changer. I guess I just figured salad dressing = carbs = bad. An ounce or 2 of blue cheese added an additional 12+ grams of fat and only 1g protein.
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2% carbs
72% fat
27% protein
Looks good! Just remember to keep carbs at <20g net especially since you just started. After you’ve been on Keto for a couple months (2-3) we can start playing with increasing carbs to see where your body will kick you out of ketosis. #2 priority is keep fats above 70% and #3 make up the rest of your macros with protein.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 11:54 am to LSU9102
She kind of has a point but is ignorant on the why and how.
Fat has the lowest diet induced thermic effect of all the macros. It is also the easiest macro to store as body fat. But keto bypasses this as you are using fat for fuel instead of stored glucose. When you combine this with a deficit you are able to burn body fat.
Keto still has to be run in a deficit to lose fat in the long run.
Fat has the lowest diet induced thermic effect of all the macros. It is also the easiest macro to store as body fat. But keto bypasses this as you are using fat for fuel instead of stored glucose. When you combine this with a deficit you are able to burn body fat.
Keto still has to be run in a deficit to lose fat in the long run.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:00 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Just remember to keep carbs at <20g net
The highest I've gotten since I started was yesterday and that was 12g
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#2 priority is keep fats above 70%
This has been my biggest obstacle so far... figuring out how to keep fat up w/o boosting protein as well. I need to find some of these keto fat bombs I keep hearing about.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:02 pm to terd ferguson
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The highest I've gotten since I started was yesterday and that was 12g
That’s perfect. Although I’m extremely fat adapted I still normally eat <10g net daily simply because I don’t eat look alike foods or anything really with carbs of substance. I get most of my carbs from eggs and cheese.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:04 pm to terd ferguson
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I need to find some of these keto fat bombs I keep hearing about.
I don’t recommend fat bombs. People overdo them. I always advocate to get all your macros in the form of Whole Foods if possible. Make an egg salad. 4 eggs with 4-6 TBSP of mayo and mustard to taste. Lots of fat.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:04 pm to lsu777
Thanks LSU777 and OWSA!
I'm sure high fat and high carb is the most dangerous thing to do.
I'm sure high fat and high carb is the most dangerous thing to do.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:38 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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I don’t recommend fat bombs. People overdo them. I always advocate to get all your macros in the form of Whole Foods if possible. Make an egg salad. 4 eggs with 4-6 TBSP of mayo and mustard to taste. Lots of fat.
10-4... I do love eggs... and mayo... and mustard. That's the good thing about keto, I love most of the foods that you should eat. Last night I even ate some plain cream cheese to up my fat intake... I could eat an entire block of it.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 12:59 pm to terd ferguson
I have something else I'd like to discuss. I went to the VA at the end of December for a check up. I'm on medication for high blood pressure and cholesterol. I talked to the doc about how I had been exercising more and my plan to go keto. He said that he didn't recommend a high fat diet bc of my cholesterol.
I did a lot of reading prior to and since going to a keto diet. A lot of what I read states that there is a small segment that have issues with cholesterol but it actually helps most people with insulin, cholesterol and other issues.
I'm due to go back in 3 months for another check up. If I stick to keto should that be enough time for my body to do whatever it's going to do as far as my BP and cholesterol? I just don't want to go in there and my lab results look worse bc my body is still possibly adjusting.
Hope that makes sense... and thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.
I did a lot of reading prior to and since going to a keto diet. A lot of what I read states that there is a small segment that have issues with cholesterol but it actually helps most people with insulin, cholesterol and other issues.
I'm due to go back in 3 months for another check up. If I stick to keto should that be enough time for my body to do whatever it's going to do as far as my BP and cholesterol? I just don't want to go in there and my lab results look worse bc my body is still possibly adjusting.
Hope that makes sense... and thanks for taking the time to answer all my questions.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:04 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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OleWarSkuleAlum
Starting Keto this Sunday night based off the 2 week challenge on this site. I've been looking at it for a few weeks and it seems there's a ton of information there on Keto. Do you know if this is a good resource?
https://www.dietdoctor.com/
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:25 pm to okietiger13
I have never heard of the diet doctor. I would not pay a dime for anything related to Keto unless it was personalized meal plans or something of that nature. Anything and everything you need you can find for free.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:27 pm to terd ferguson
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I'm due to go back in 3 months for another check up. If I stick to keto should that be enough time for my body to do whatever it's going to do as far as my BP and cholesterol? I just don't want to go in there and my lab results look worse bc my body is still possibly adjusting.
I obviously can’t guarantee that your numbers won’t go up, but even if your total cholesterol does go up ask for a test that breaks down LDL into its three forms: VLDL, IDL, and LDL.
Here’s a great video talking about cholesterol...
LINK
Posted on 1/3/19 at 2:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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I have never heard of the diet doctor. I would not pay a dime for anything related to Keto unless it was personalized meal plans or something of that nature. Anything and everything you need you can find for free.
It is free. At least the part I've been looking at. I have no interest or intention of paying anything just to "speak with an expert". Lots of articles on the site providing the same information you did in your initial post and more.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 3:26 pm to okietiger13
Awesome let me know how it works out!
Posted on 1/3/19 at 4:10 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Fat only is stored when your insulin spikes
False. You can - and will - store fat if you are in a caloric surplus even on the keto or carnivore diet. You don't need insulin to shuttle fat into fat stores.
You don't even store much carbs that you eat as fat. By and large, carbs get stored in muscle glycogen, liver glycogen, and are used by other various processes in the body. A very small amount of carbs will go through de novo lipogenesis to be stored as fat. What primarily gets stored as fat is the fat you eat - because your body doesn't need it for energy. That said, if you're in a caloric deficit it will need the stored fat and will access it.
When in ketosis, your body will burn a lot of fat, yes, but it will also store a lot of fat. Ultimately, the calorie balance is what determines if you gain or lose weight on a ketogenic (or any, for that matter) diet.
Here is a quote from Layne Norton's latest book -
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Keep in mind that all of this exists on a continuum. It’s not as if you release a small amount of insulin and fat burning shuts down everywhere in your body. The body is always simultaneously burning and storing body fat; it will be the relative rates of each that determine body fat loss or gain. It’s tempting to see the information about glucose and insulin and believe that we should only eat fat while completely omitting carbs, because then we would just be burning a lot of fat. That’s true. You would burn a lot of fat, but you’d also be consuming a lot of fat, and if you were consuming more total calories than you expended, you would end up storing body fat because your rate of fat storage would exceed your rate of fat burning. You see, your body is going to oxidize the fuels you provide for it, typically in the proportion you provide them.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 4:45 pm to Hulkklogan
Layne Norton is a known shill and a liar (adulterer to boot).
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