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Posted on 11/1/19 at 10:16 am to lsu777
Looks like rouge won’t have their bars on the Black Friday deal? They are having a month long promo on most of their gear.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:05 am to lsu777
i was thinking of starting greyskull lp with this template
LINK but instead of 10x5 for bench replace it with BBB as recommended by lsu777 but he said this is only used for when u stall can i use this as my starting template or is it better if i stick to the other ones? i really like the volume and the work structured in this one
LINK but instead of 10x5 for bench replace it with BBB as recommended by lsu777 but he said this is only used for when u stall can i use this as my starting template or is it better if i stick to the other ones? i really like the volume and the work structured in this one
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:38 am to Cabrio
You are fine starting with it. Run it adding 2.5lbs on the 10*5 sets until you stall. Once you stall what I would do is this
Switch to 5 sets of 10 reps
2 weeks@50%
2 weeks@55%
2 weeks@60%
2 weeks@65%
So on and so forth until you stall.
Prolly looking at 9-12 or so weeks on both so 18-24 weeks. At that point I would do this
12 weeks of running the lp without the added volume, but on the last set, I want you to rest pause it. Same with the accessory work, rest pause it.
This is similar to wendlers leaders and anchor periodization design.
Essentially what you are doing is a version of linear periodization like the lp is designed for to begin with. In the first two phases you are doing some intensity work on the mainlift and volume on the supplemental lift. During this last phase you would be ramping the intensity on the main lift big time while cutting down the supplemental lift volume with accessory intensity ramping up.
This allows you to realize the gains made during the volume phase. It's a quick and easy way to do block periodization in a linear format.
If you need to in the 5*10 sets, change the mainlift to a variant.
Been hesitant to post the above as it will go over most head, but it works well.
Switch to 5 sets of 10 reps
2 weeks@50%
2 weeks@55%
2 weeks@60%
2 weeks@65%
So on and so forth until you stall.
Prolly looking at 9-12 or so weeks on both so 18-24 weeks. At that point I would do this
12 weeks of running the lp without the added volume, but on the last set, I want you to rest pause it. Same with the accessory work, rest pause it.
This is similar to wendlers leaders and anchor periodization design.
Essentially what you are doing is a version of linear periodization like the lp is designed for to begin with. In the first two phases you are doing some intensity work on the mainlift and volume on the supplemental lift. During this last phase you would be ramping the intensity on the main lift big time while cutting down the supplemental lift volume with accessory intensity ramping up.
This allows you to realize the gains made during the volume phase. It's a quick and easy way to do block periodization in a linear format.
If you need to in the 5*10 sets, change the mainlift to a variant.
Been hesitant to post the above as it will go over most head, but it works well.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 9:58 am to lsu777
as always a great and in-depth response from the man himself
i have a couple questions just to make sure that i got this right
do you mean that i should run 10*5 on both lifts OHP and the bench and then switch to 5 sets of 10 when i stall
now after i stall in the 2 weeks percentage part u said i should run the lp without the added volume what does that mean exactly do you mean running base greyskull lp with just the chins and kroc rows as accessory ?
i have a couple questions just to make sure that i got this right
do you mean that i should run 10*5 on both lifts OHP and the bench and then switch to 5 sets of 10 when i stall
now after i stall in the 2 weeks percentage part u said i should run the lp without the added volume what does that mean exactly do you mean running base greyskull lp with just the chins and kroc rows as accessory ?
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:17 am to Cabrio
quote:
do you mean that i should run 10*5 on both lifts OHP and the bench and then switch to 5 sets of 10 when i stall
Correct. With starting at 50% and adding 2.5 lbs it will prolly take you 12+ weeks until you stall on press with the 10 sets of 5. Press will be the first lift to stall.
Then you would reset the volume portion to 50% and run % based as I described for 5 sets of 10. You can do it to where you move both the bench and press to this at the same time or just love the lift that stalls, pushing the other(prolly be bench) until it stalls
quote:
now after i stall in the 2 weeks percentage part u said i should run the lp without the added volume what does that mean exactly do you mean running base greyskull lp with just the chins and kroc rows as accessory ?
It means take out the second portion. So it would be the main upper body lift, the antagonist then the squat/deadlift and would look like this
Press-2*5,1*5+, rest pause the last set.
Chins- rest paused
Squats-2*5,1*20 reps
Bench would be the same way. Deadlift would remain as 1 all out set.
Feel free when you move to this phase to add some accessory lifts in. Prolly 2 per day, rest pause them.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:00 am to lsu777
This 'different phase program' youve just detailed looks great.
If my goal was to specifically increase my bench press as quick as poss, would you recommend this program - the 10x5, 5x10, RP, as youve detailed? Or amend it differently?
My other thought was to do Smolov Jr + squats and deads greyskull style.
Thanks
If my goal was to specifically increase my bench press as quick as poss, would you recommend this program - the 10x5, 5x10, RP, as youve detailed? Or amend it differently?
My other thought was to do Smolov Jr + squats and deads greyskull style.
Thanks
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:09 am to numptythrubbers
quote:
My other thought was to do Smolov Jr + squats and deads greyskull style
That would work but if my goal was to specifically increase strength I would do the following if still intermediate
Push the last set until one rep before failure and then Rp that weight.
Instead of press I would do high incline close grip
I would hit triceps 3 times per week using close grip bench, reverse grip bench, and weighted pushups for 3-5 sets.
Wave loading would get you peaked faster but the above will drive the Basse strength up quickier.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:22 am to lsu777
Sweet sounds great. Pulling exercises too?
Thanks. I'll try running this up to new year.
Thanks. I'll try running this up to new year.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:47 am to lsu777
And do you mean like
5, 5, 5+
Then RP sets
Or is the 5+ the RP sets instead?
Thanks
5, 5, 5+
Then RP sets
Or is the 5+ the RP sets instead?
Thanks
Posted on 11/17/19 at 1:16 pm to numptythrubbers
5/5/5+ rest 15-30 seconds then go to failure, repeat, repeat.
So you do the first two sets. Then you last you push to failure, rack it, rest 15s and go to failure, rack and rest 20s and then go to failure, rack and rest 30s and go to failure.
So you do the first two sets. Then you last you push to failure, rack it, rest 15s and go to failure, rack and rest 20s and then go to failure, rack and rest 30s and go to failure.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:42 pm to lsu777
quote:
lsu777
Hey Mr P
Can you email me please? fishingfloridaradio@gmail.com
For the life of me I cannot find you in my address book
Thanks so much BooDreaux
Posted on 12/31/19 at 1:28 pm to numptythrubbers
Bump for New year's crew.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:40 pm to lsu777
quote:
Bump for New year's crew.
New Year's Crew checking in. Thanks for the OP write-up, going to do some more reading when I get home later.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:15 pm to lsu777
quote:
Just set it up on a simple A/B rotation with rpt or the greyskull traditional 2x5,1x5+
A:
incline
Back squat
Wide bodyweight dips- 50-100 reps
Bodyweight chins- 30-100 reps
Lateral raises- 2 x 15-20
B:
Press
Weighted chins
Weighted dips
Deadlift- 1 set
Barbell curls- rpt 6-8/ 8-12/ 12-15
Side lateral raise- 2 x 15-20
5-6 exercises, quick and to the point. Do the above and it should take less than an hour. Pick some form of hard arse conditioning for 10-12 min and get after it.
Think I’m gonna roll with this one to start out with.
A - Monday
B - Wednesday
Do you repeat Monday on Friday since it’s 3 days? Maybe I misread
Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:39 am to lsu777
Any word on new stuff from Johnny? I see his ig posts but haven't seen anything other than the villain stuff.
Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:21 am to lsu777
Hey 777. I'm taking a look at Greyskull foing into the new year. I lost a significant amount of weight last year, and want to keep carrying that momentum forward.
Which program would you look at for someone who still needs to drop 20 or so pounds but wants yo start building a foundation of strength?
Which program would you look at for someone who still needs to drop 20 or so pounds but wants yo start building a foundation of strength?
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:24 pm to tunechi
quote:
Think I’m gonna roll with this one to start out with.
A - Monday
B - Wednesday
Do you repeat Monday on Friday since it’s 3 days? Maybe I misread
Yes simple rotation.
A/b/a on week 1
B/A/B on week 2
Repeat
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:25 pm to burgeman
quote:
ny word on new stuff from Johnny? I see his ig posts but haven't seen anything other than the villain stuff.
Nope, haven't heard anything. Can't trust him anyways.
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