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Sarms expectations and advice

Posted on 10/8/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/8/19 at 11:06 pm
Just ordered 2 bottles of both 30ml LGD liquid and 10mg Cardarine (60 caps) from Narrows Labs.

Plan on taking 5mg LGD with 10mg Cardarine for a full 12wk cycle. Some advice on dosing, dose timing and pct would be helpful.

Also, this is my first PED experience so I’m not sure how my body will react. I tend to put on or lose weight quickly and have a medium-large frame.

Currently I’m 195 lbs. at 5’11 in my mid twenties and somewhere around 16-18% body fat with a 34” waist.

About 18 months ago I was around 270 lbs, I followed a very low cal ketogenic diet with cardio and dropped down to 185 lbs over the first 6-8 months, then went into maintenance. About 2 months ago I began serious lifting again (lifted moderately before I got fat). Weight is maintaining and waist seems to be slowly shrinking.

Any advice would be helpful
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Brinner
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:34 am to
congrats on the tits
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:15 pm to
Doesn't work like that.
Posted by Shepherd88
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:25 pm to
The Cardarine taste like straight booty juice. That’s all I got to say.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:46 pm to
What is your lifting plan while using SARMS and after? Appropriately handling that is going to be important in what you keep from SARMS.

I don't have a ton of SARMS knowledge, so I'll let someone speak to things like PCT, except I'll say, definitely have a plan.
Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:06 pm to
I’m mostly trying to recomp around 10lbs of fat to muscle

I’m planning on eating at a slight caloric excess with around 190-220g protein a day, the rest will be fat.

Lifting 7 days a week hitting all groups twice except for legs hitting once per week. My job Is pretty active and often end up doing 50 flights of stairs and 20,000 steps so I think legs once a week will suffice
Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Doesn't work like that


You seemed pretty knowledgeable in some of the other post I’ve read on here.

Any advice?
Posted by Dixie Normus
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 2:08 pm to
Don’t want to speak for 7’s, but the only ones I’ve seen him recommend are MK-677 and Cardarine to a lesser extent. If I recall, he’s said that you’re better off just jumping into anabolics before doing LGD, YK, or any of the other sarms.
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Lifting 7 days a week hitting all groups twice except for legs hitting once per week.


I might recommend trying a Texas Method template. It has a planned 5 LB per week weight increase.

You should be able to gain strength off this. Over 12 weeks, that's 60 LB on Bench, Squat and Dead. That's a maintainable amount if you haven't trained compound movements for linear gains.

If you can maintain a 60 LB gain off this, you will get a tremendous overall bump to your lifting and physique. That'a a lot of strength that will pay off.

Just my 2 cents.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 2:22 pm to
Lgd is an Anabolic and will lower your test so you will have to do a pct, it's why I do not recommend it. Might as well do a cycle of you are going to mess with your natural hormones.

The GW, keep to the dose 20mg and below. Enjoy the health benefits and the endurance benefits.

Since you already bought the lgd and seem to be determined, might as well use it, but should get atleast one serm, prolly clomid, to use. A safer bet would be doing the power pct program using two Serms, hcg and possibly an AI if needed.

My advice though, is to not use anything that could mess with natural hormones. That's why I always say only GW or Mk as they cause no issues once off.

Also my personal opinion based off what you stated as your split, is you are not ready for these things and would be better off following a 12 week recomp using the leangains macros, either the gslp aesthetics program or if you wanted something higher volume a Meadows program or thibarmy program.

Sorry, you asked for my opinion
Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
648 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:40 pm to
Do you think Ostarine would be more of a mild option instead of the LGD?

I bought it but have no problem showing it on the shelf and trying something else.

I figured most would say I wasn’t ready, and I’d probably agree. But I think the fast result will help motivate me and stay on track



Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 4:43 pm to
I did research the mk-677. It scares me a little because my crazy appetite has been an issue my whole life
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Do you think Ostarine would be more of a mild option instead of the LGD?


Both will suppress natural testosterone, but lgd doesn't have The vision side effects so no
Posted by lattin1
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 5:57 pm to
As always, losing weight is entirely about calories in vs calories out. There's no SARM or even steroid (short of Trenbolone) that's going to change that. When people take Winstrol or whatever while cutting, its not because it accelerates fat loss but that it protects lean muscle mass while cutting. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with what you proposed taking. I'm simply saying don't expect there to be some kind of miracle fat loss drug.
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:33 pm to
Actually test levels after LGD return to normal after about 6 weeks.

I used it for 8-10 weeks and mine recovered fine

IMO sarms are a waste of money. Just use test baw
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 7:41 pm to
They can but not everyone bounces back easy though.
Posted by FieldEngineer
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 4:28 pm to
Nice bump noob.
Posted by caro81
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 5:35 pm to
this thread

Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

Lifting 7 days a week hitting all groups twice except for legs hitting once per week.


Legs once a week? What is this crap? Everyday is leg day!
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 8:12 pm to
Cardarine makes your energy output and recovery really favorable for doing cardio. It’s not going to do that much for lifting or recomping per se as a chemical it just lets you do cardio hard forever you end up in a deficit cause you can burn 5-600 calories on a bike like it’s nothing.

I think you’re a bit over the map with what you’re trying to accomplish in this cycle tbh. I don’t think anyone should bulk on gear at 16-18% bf; you’ll put on body fat moreso than muscle and then have to cut from 20%+ over a long arse time. If you’re cutting, then holding onto the muscle you already have is the only goal. You aren’t going to put much lean mass on while in a deficit.

I don’t know how long you’ve been lifting seriously, but if you’re talking recomping I assume it’s under 2 years. If it were me, I’d hit legs and back hard 2x a week, and try to build as much muscle on the biggest groups. Are you squatting/deadlifting 3 plates? Are you rowing 185 for big reps? I’d overall lift 5-6 days a week as long as you can take the volume on a PPL program with progressive overload on the main lifts, do 20-30 min of cardio every am, and make sure you hit 10k steps. Do all that in a 250 cal/day deficit (are you keeping track of that?) and if not seeing the leaning up you want drop it to 500/day. If this is too hard to manage then hop on cardarine for 8 weeks. If you’re not doing this level of work, you don’t need chemicals.

Assuming you end up 10-12% bf after that, then go with like a 250ish cal/day excess and hit the ligandrol. You’re gonna want PCT cause it will shut down your test. I’d personally just blast testosterone over SARMS at that point…
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