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re: PUTTHEFORKDOWN V. 2025- Weight Loss Support & Advice thread!

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Posted by FieldEngineer
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:03 am to
214/207/180
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 10:27 am to
228/228/195 FML
Posted by irishTiger18
Chicago
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 2:38 pm to
First Thread Post:

194/190/178. 5'10

I am using a fat loss stack of the Gorilla products.

1) Rauwolscine - taking this before fasted cardio in the morning
2) Gorilla Mode AR, basically just L-Carnitine L-Tartrate - taking this on non Rauwolscine days
3) cAMP PM - taking this throughout each day

ETA: Workouts consist of lifting MWF and fasted cardio TThSa and a rest day of walking sunday. Diet is...
MTW 1600 Calories 200g P, 100g C
Th 2600 calories 200 P, 350g C
F 2200 c, 200g P, 250g C
S 2000 c, 200g P, 200g C
Su 800 c, any macros. OMAD

if anyone can guess this diet plan I'll give you $1million TDD
This post was edited on 1/10/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37981 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:18 am to
quote:

if anyone can guess this diet plan I'll give you $1million TDD


i was thinking ultimate diet 2.0 but not that, honestly not sure

210/205/175

so my goals now are

end of Jan-below 200
start of lent- 195
end of lent- 190
end of may-185
end of august-175
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 7:43 am to
Just got my inbody and the last 6 months have not been good. I gained 9 pounds and 6 of it was fat, only 1.3 pounds of muscle mass. Most of the fat is in my trunk and my visceral fat went up from a 7 to a 9. I'm currently at 208 lbs with 20.2% body fat. Going out of town for a few weeks and then going to start a long cut. I'll set my goal ambitiously at 190 lbs with 15% body fat.

I havent been tracking since my fitness pal took away the scanner and i wonder if squatober and deadcember were over training.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 7:59 am
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2980 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:44 am to
I got mine done and it says I’ve lost four pounds of muscle over the last 9 months. That can’t be right. I’m stronger and more muscular now.

I did lay off the creatine a while back. Maybe that affected the numbers. It said my body water decreased a good bit too.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12911 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:51 am to
I can believe mine. I wasn't setting the big PR numbers that a lot of yall were hitting and my stomach is definitely the softest it's ever been. I also quit walking when winter came due to the constant snow we've had up here
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 8:58 am to
Man frick those Inbody scans. They are better than the BF% your home scales get from impedence using your feet, but still susceptible to all the same errors. People treat them like the gold standard, but it’s still just a data point, and sometimes it’s not even a useful one. Yes creatine or not could definitely affect how much water is in your muscles. How dehydrated you were in the 2 tests also is likely the issue (muscle is like 3/4 water).

I’d look at an unfavorable inbody like you have work to do still but wouldn’t obsess on it. If you’re lifting heavy, getting your protein, and staying the same/losing weight slowly then you aren’t losing 4lbs of lean mass unless your super low bf%. Maybe you need to lose 5 more lbs (or gain 5 more if you were bulking) to get where you want compared to what you were thinking. Don’t read too much more into it.

//edit: 194/190/185 just bouncing around 190-191 all week
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:03 am to
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I’d look at an unfavorable inbody like you have work to do still but wouldn’t obsess on it.

Well I'm trying to use it to learn if I'm going about my training and diet the right way. I had 4 scans over the past year and they all trended the way that I expected them to. I got lazy with my macro tracking the last 3 months and justified eating a lot more by the fact that I was squatting or deadlifting 5 days a week. I was still eating good whole foods but just a lot more of it. At the same time I quit taking daily walks. I could see my stomach getting softer but I kept pushing the food anyway until I finished deadcember. I guess I was hoping for more muscle gain but in hindsight I can't say I'm overly surprised by the results that i ended up with.

I'm going to get back to tracking and switch my programming back to MAPS. Not sure what I can do about the walking until spring gets here
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2980 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:04 am to
Yeah, I'm not worried about it. I know I'm making progress. Looking better in the mirror and clothes getting looser in the waist.

quote:

water is like 3/4 water


Say what?
Posted by The Top G
Member since Jan 2023
139 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:13 am to
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Inbody scans


I dont know why y'all even use these. They arent totally worthless, but they're pretty close. If you arent controlling all the variables of when you do it, are you fasted, have you drank, etc, the outputs arent going to be comparable.

And just FYI, you (not my reply, in general) aren't gaining 5 lbs of lean mass in a month going to a commercial gym three days a week for an hour. Just not happening.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:19 am to
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Not sure what I can do about the walking until spring gets here


I go for an hour walk unless it’s colder than -25 with wind chill and just concede I’m going to be cold for a while every day. If it’s colder than that I get on the elliptical which I fricking despise. I guess if you aren’t in a city and get a lot of snow then the walking could be problematic… snowshoes maybe?

It’s probably more that the overall daily activity level is just so much less in the winter months than the specific walk tho…
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37981 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Man frick those Inbody scans. They are better than the BF% your home scales get from impedence using your feet, but still susceptible to all the same errors. People treat them like the gold standard, but it’s still just a data point, and sometimes it’s not even a useful one



quote:

I dont know why y'all even use these. They arent totally worthless, but they're pretty close. If you arent controlling all the variables of when you do it, are you fasted, have you drank, etc, the outputs arent going to be comparable.


they certainly are not the gold standard and even the gold standard dexa is nothing but a trend line

personally i have found inbody to be just as accurate as dexa for me personally. but i also control all factors. I take them at the same time everytime, in the morning after i piss and i do not drink anything before hand. I also do not go if i went in the hot tub the night before or have an extreme amount of water the night before

simply once a month or every other I go on a friday morning i am off and have had factors controlled and have a scan

quote:

creatine or not could definitely affect how much water is in your muscles. How dehydrated you were in the 2 tests also is likely the issue


creatine use and then stopping will 100% throw off the scan.




all of these scans are nothing but a trendline and you have to keep all factors constant just like with dexa, bodpod etc. I will say if you show less than 12% bodyfat on an inbody, you are going to be pretty shredded, show less than 10% and you will be absolutely ripped.

they are very useful if you use them correctly. like many things they are just a tool in the tool box and its what you use it for that matters.
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2980 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:30 am to
My scan said I was down 2.2L of total body water, so that might explain it all.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 9:54 am to
I took one before squatober and it was about 4-5% bf higher than I expected and I took it really hard. I eventually processed it was I need to be 180ish to be done losing weight and kept rolling.

Then I took another scan a month after squatober (where I added 45lbs to squat and lost 5 lbs) and it said I had actually gained 3lbs of fat and was down almost 8 lbs of lean mass, mostly in the legs. I concluded at least the one I have access to is junk and went back to measuring weight/neck/waist to estimate progress lol.
This post was edited on 1/11/23 at 10:01 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37981 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Then I took another scan a month after squatober (where I added 45lbs to squat and lost 5 lbs) and it said I had actually gained 3lbs of fat and was down almost 8 lbs of lean mass, mostly in the legs. I concluded at least the one I have access to is junk and went back to measuring weight/neck/waist to estimate progress lol.


yea the one you are using may be off.

i actually pay for mine, i dont use the free one at 5 star nutrition, because the one i pay for is the 2nd highest model they make. it was like 8k like 5 years ago. tends to be very accurate for me personally.

but int he end, just like your measurements..its nothing but a tool.

but i will say (prolly not in your case) most people have way more fat to loose than they think.

this article on amazons halo is perfect example, complaining about the thing being accurate because they dont like the results
LINK
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:15 am to
Oh yea I also think that it’s hard to see the difference between 14-15% bf and 18-19% bf in many cases. So if you think “I bulked up 15lbs and it was all muscle cause my abs look the same” you prolly put on 3-4% bf but just can’t tell. Or if you think you hit the weight you wanted for 15% bf in a diet you could be actually be 18-19% and need to lose 15lbs still (me IRL).
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
468 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 11:29 am to
I've never reached 6pack stage but hope springs eternal
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1808 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:23 am to
194/191/185

Pretty tired of 190-191 on scale; been 7 days now
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44797 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:13 am to
205/202/185

I need to stay strong through the weekend this time.
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