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re: PuttaDaForkDown v3.0
Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:12 pm to Hulkklogan
Posted on 7/1/19 at 3:12 pm to Hulkklogan
I'm going to step on up a soapbox because I just feel the need to express how in control of my eating I feel right now. I've never experienced this before, and I feel like as long as I keep this up I will absolutely crush my goals.
In the past when I've lost weight, I did it through avoidance. I'd avoid putting myself in a situation where I would be tempted to eat off-plan and screw things up. It's a lot easier that way; however it means when I couldn't avoid something I couldn't control myself and my drive to eat. My "fat brain" would just kick in and take over.
Over the last couple of months I've begun to find a transformation in the way I feel about food. It's not being eaten to derive pleasure.. it's being eaten to meet goals. On top of this, I don't need to be perfect. "close enough" adjustments that align with my goals are fine. With this new outlook, I find myself not needing to avoid situations, especially social, where I could find myself around crummy food. Some examples: Saturday I had some in-laws in town from GA in NOLA so we went to NOLA. They wanted to go to Parkway for poboys. In the past this would lead me to feel anxious and angry that people want to go somewhere so tempting, and I'd brood about it until I got there and then I'd give in and eat something that doesn't align with my goals. Instead, I looked at the menu and decided to get a 7" grilled turkey poboy, no mayo add mustard. It's not perfect, but it's good enough. I also swiped a few sweet potato fries and fried pickles from the table but not enough to really matter. Everyone else left Parkway stuffed, miserable, and probably questioning their life choices.. meanwhile, I felt great about it.
The next day, we went back to New Orleans and went to Mr. B's Bistro for brunch, as it was my wife's grandmother's 85th birthday. Again, I could've freaked out and not gone or said "frick it" and went ham, but instead I remained in control. I ordered the chicken breast dish. It is a seared chicken breast with skin, hash browns, and hollandaise. I removed the skin, got the hollandaise on the side, and the hash browns were too salty so I didn't eat them. So.. my meal was just chicken and a bit of hollandaise sauce. Again, not perfect, but close enough.
2 weeks ago my wife and I went for sushi for a date night. We had sashimi, nigiri, and 3 rolls that we shared, as well as a small bottle of saki that we shared. To compensate I skipped my lunch and breakfast carbs.
This mentality shift is great for maintenance. I'll have to go back to tracking when it's time to lose weight and we'll see how this plays out while tracking. But it feels so liberating.
In the past when I've lost weight, I did it through avoidance. I'd avoid putting myself in a situation where I would be tempted to eat off-plan and screw things up. It's a lot easier that way; however it means when I couldn't avoid something I couldn't control myself and my drive to eat. My "fat brain" would just kick in and take over.
Over the last couple of months I've begun to find a transformation in the way I feel about food. It's not being eaten to derive pleasure.. it's being eaten to meet goals. On top of this, I don't need to be perfect. "close enough" adjustments that align with my goals are fine. With this new outlook, I find myself not needing to avoid situations, especially social, where I could find myself around crummy food. Some examples: Saturday I had some in-laws in town from GA in NOLA so we went to NOLA. They wanted to go to Parkway for poboys. In the past this would lead me to feel anxious and angry that people want to go somewhere so tempting, and I'd brood about it until I got there and then I'd give in and eat something that doesn't align with my goals. Instead, I looked at the menu and decided to get a 7" grilled turkey poboy, no mayo add mustard. It's not perfect, but it's good enough. I also swiped a few sweet potato fries and fried pickles from the table but not enough to really matter. Everyone else left Parkway stuffed, miserable, and probably questioning their life choices.. meanwhile, I felt great about it.
The next day, we went back to New Orleans and went to Mr. B's Bistro for brunch, as it was my wife's grandmother's 85th birthday. Again, I could've freaked out and not gone or said "frick it" and went ham, but instead I remained in control. I ordered the chicken breast dish. It is a seared chicken breast with skin, hash browns, and hollandaise. I removed the skin, got the hollandaise on the side, and the hash browns were too salty so I didn't eat them. So.. my meal was just chicken and a bit of hollandaise sauce. Again, not perfect, but close enough.
2 weeks ago my wife and I went for sushi for a date night. We had sashimi, nigiri, and 3 rolls that we shared, as well as a small bottle of saki that we shared. To compensate I skipped my lunch and breakfast carbs.
This mentality shift is great for maintenance. I'll have to go back to tracking when it's time to lose weight and we'll see how this plays out while tracking. But it feels so liberating.
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 4:10 pm to Hulkklogan
That's awesome man and honestly how you did the date night is perfect. Food is a great thing and great food is something to celebrate. Key is understanding how to compensate for that the next or prepare if we know it will happen by lowering caloric intake before hand.
Congrats man
Congrats man
Posted on 7/1/19 at 5:01 pm to lsu777
For sure. That's another key thing... I'll eat something off plan if it's something truly worthwhile. I'll enjoy the experience of something I don't often get. But a poboy? Brunch stuff? Nah I'll find something that fits my goals.
Now if I'm in New York and there's fresh new York pizza, frick yeaaaaaaa I'm eating it
Now if I'm in New York and there's fresh new York pizza, frick yeaaaaaaa I'm eating it
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:46 am to Hulkklogan
Ok so for those that are unfamiliar with Avatar nutrition and the changes they have made you should really look into it.
So Avatar took the whole flexible diet approach and applied an AI to the app so it gives you essentially a personalized diet coach.
Well they have made it better now, so they added moving targets first and foremost. What this does is allows the system to adjust your weekly macros as you go along. So let's say you have your week setup for sunday- sunday and you know on the coming Saturday you will have a big party coming up. Well you can undereat all week on calories, carbs and fat and come Saturday it will add those into that day so even though you went way over the normal amount you are still complaint. This is a big deal for a normal person because we all have days where we just want that damn candy bar and we have no macros or calories left. Or we have a party or a surprise dinner.
This feature essentially allows you to do the program without guilt. Come home from work and the ole lady wants to go for tacos an you can't resist....no big deal, it will subtract it from the rest of the week evenly.
Second feature is they add carb/ fat swap. This feature is based on the fact that calories and protein account for over 80% of results. So they allow you to trade some carbs for fats if that is what you want. For example if you get done lifting and you are craving a steak but show only 10g of fat left for the day but 100g carbs, you can trade the carbs for fat to allow you to have what you want and are craving. Key is you still have to stay within the caloric limit.
Last thing they have added lately is daily weigh in. This allows the system to take an average of your loss/gain and adjust. This makes the system much more accurate as it gives a much larger picture instead of a snap shot in time of one day a week.
I know I sound like a salesman, but it really is a great system.
I really wish they would implement two things though
Have a leangains method setting that auto calculated out the macros based on a 3 or 4 day lifting schedule.
Have a nutrient timing setting similar to RPs app. Most wouldn't use these but it would be nice to have for those that are really serious.
So Avatar took the whole flexible diet approach and applied an AI to the app so it gives you essentially a personalized diet coach.
Well they have made it better now, so they added moving targets first and foremost. What this does is allows the system to adjust your weekly macros as you go along. So let's say you have your week setup for sunday- sunday and you know on the coming Saturday you will have a big party coming up. Well you can undereat all week on calories, carbs and fat and come Saturday it will add those into that day so even though you went way over the normal amount you are still complaint. This is a big deal for a normal person because we all have days where we just want that damn candy bar and we have no macros or calories left. Or we have a party or a surprise dinner.
This feature essentially allows you to do the program without guilt. Come home from work and the ole lady wants to go for tacos an you can't resist....no big deal, it will subtract it from the rest of the week evenly.
Second feature is they add carb/ fat swap. This feature is based on the fact that calories and protein account for over 80% of results. So they allow you to trade some carbs for fats if that is what you want. For example if you get done lifting and you are craving a steak but show only 10g of fat left for the day but 100g carbs, you can trade the carbs for fat to allow you to have what you want and are craving. Key is you still have to stay within the caloric limit.
Last thing they have added lately is daily weigh in. This allows the system to take an average of your loss/gain and adjust. This makes the system much more accurate as it gives a much larger picture instead of a snap shot in time of one day a week.
I know I sound like a salesman, but it really is a great system.
I really wish they would implement two things though
Have a leangains method setting that auto calculated out the macros based on a 3 or 4 day lifting schedule.
Have a nutrient timing setting similar to RPs app. Most wouldn't use these but it would be nice to have for those that are really serious.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:28 pm to lsu777
I started using it again today. Gotta get back into the swing of tracking diligently before I start another cut
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:38 pm to Hulkklogan
I didn't eat much yesterday as I fasted after lunch and am until tomorrow night. Actually 22 hours and 45 min into it right now and I have on moving targets and it telling me I need to eat 369 carbs today gonna be crazy what it updates to on Wednesday 
Gonna fast after tomorrows feast unt Friday anyways though
gonna be crazy what it updates to on Wednesday Gonna fast after tomorrows feast unt Friday anyways though
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:44 pm to lsu777
Hello, my name is HuFlungPu and I got fat.
Maybe not really fat but relatively fat for me.
Maybe not really fat but relatively fat for me.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:45 pm to lsu777
I miraculously found myself not hungry at all for dinnertime yesterday so I didn't eat a meal. Had a protein shake and a little fruit and called it a night. Woke up at 254.6 pounds.. That is another reason I'm starting to track. I am still in a slight deficit just eating ad libitum. Not something I expected out of myself
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:54 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
We'll get to using MyFitnessPal
Use the leangains calc and my fitness pal to track
LINK
Set the calc to leangains and 50% protein, set fat and carbs however you like.
Weigh in every two weeks, if you don't lose, adjust calories down 250 and recalculate.
Or pay the $20/month for Avatar
What program are you running?
Use the leangains calc and my fitness pal to track
LINK
Set the calc to leangains and 50% protein, set fat and carbs however you like.
Weigh in every two weeks, if you don't lose, adjust calories down 250 and recalculate.
Or pay the $20/month for Avatar
What program are you running?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:58 pm to lsu777
eat rabbit food program
I have
Morning
30g protein drink with coffee (Agave and 1tbsp half and half)
Lunch
6oz chicken
salad with sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, 1oz cheese and oil and vinegar
20g protein
Dinner
Same as lunch
I've only lost like 3 lbs in 1 1/2 months.
Today I did 1 cup of Basmati rice instead of salad. I might do 6oz chicken, 1 cup of basmati rice, and half the normal salad.
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Kroger - Half & Half, 2 tbsp 35 1g 3g 1g 10mg 15mg 1g 0g
Wholesome - Agave, 2 tbsp 120 32g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 32g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Lunch
Grilled chicken - Chicken, 6 oz 150 2g 3g 33g 75mg 165mg 2g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Salad dressing - Oil Vinegar, 2 Tablespoon 144 1g 16g 0g 0mg 0mg 1g 0g
Valued Naturals - Pumpkin Seeds, 0.5 ounce 76 1g 6g 4g 0mg 8mg 0g 0g
Seeds, sunflower seed kernels, dried, 0.5 oz(s) 83 3g 7g 3g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Basmati Rice - (Cooked), 1 cup 190 40g 1g 6g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Dinner
Grilled chicken - Chicken, 6 oz 150 2g 3g 33g 75mg 165mg 2g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Basmati Rice - (Cooked), 1 cup 190 40g 1g 6g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Seeds, sunflower seed kernels, dried, 0.5 oz(s) 83 3g 7g 3g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Valued Naturals - Pumpkin Seeds, 0.5 ounce 76 1g 6g 4g 0mg 8mg 0g 0g
Salad dressing - Oil Vinegar, 2 Tablespoon 144 1g 16g 0g 0mg 0mg 1g 0g
TOTAL: 1,921 142g 78g 183g 235mg 1,445mg 42g 13g
I have
Morning
30g protein drink with coffee (Agave and 1tbsp half and half)
Lunch
6oz chicken
salad with sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, 1oz cheese and oil and vinegar
20g protein
Dinner
Same as lunch
I've only lost like 3 lbs in 1 1/2 months.
Today I did 1 cup of Basmati rice instead of salad. I might do 6oz chicken, 1 cup of basmati rice, and half the normal salad.
FOODS Calories Carbs Fat Protein Cholest Sodium Sugars Fiber
Breakfast
Kroger - Half & Half, 2 tbsp 35 1g 3g 1g 10mg 15mg 1g 0g
Wholesome - Agave, 2 tbsp 120 32g 0g 0g 0mg 0mg 32g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Lunch
Grilled chicken - Chicken, 6 oz 150 2g 3g 33g 75mg 165mg 2g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Salad dressing - Oil Vinegar, 2 Tablespoon 144 1g 16g 0g 0mg 0mg 1g 0g
Valued Naturals - Pumpkin Seeds, 0.5 ounce 76 1g 6g 4g 0mg 8mg 0g 0g
Seeds, sunflower seed kernels, dried, 0.5 oz(s) 83 3g 7g 3g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Basmati Rice - (Cooked), 1 cup 190 40g 1g 6g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Dinner
Grilled chicken - Chicken, 6 oz 150 2g 3g 33g 75mg 165mg 2g 0g
Premier Protein - Premier Protien Shake, 1 shake 160 5g 3g 30g 25mg 360mg 1g 3g
Basmati Rice - (Cooked), 1 cup 190 40g 1g 6g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Seeds, sunflower seed kernels, dried, 0.5 oz(s) 83 3g 7g 3g 0mg 1mg 0g 1g
Valued Naturals - Pumpkin Seeds, 0.5 ounce 76 1g 6g 4g 0mg 8mg 0g 0g
Salad dressing - Oil Vinegar, 2 Tablespoon 144 1g 16g 0g 0mg 0mg 1g 0g
TOTAL: 1,921 142g 78g 183g 235mg 1,445mg 42g 13g
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:17 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
How often have you been hitting those macros? Be honest. Should be losing way more at those levels.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:23 pm to lsu777
Out of the 1 1/2 months I was on it. I stayed on those exact meals for 90% of all meals M-F. On Sat and Sunday, it would be very similar with no cheat meals.
2 weekends ago I ate 2 large meals that weren't on the diet and had a pizza once the next week. This past weekend, I had one cheat meal and it was 3 hotdogs with mustard.
Other than that, really nothing has changed. My macros are consistent.
Maybe I'm in recomp since I didn't workout for a long time and gaining some of the muscle back. Could be holding some water too.
I need to be measuring circumference of arms, waist, legs, and chest.
Alternate meals would be
Carb balance tortilla
3 eggs
3 bacon
1 oz cheddar cheese
6oz chicken
1 cup tabouleh
2 weekends ago I ate 2 large meals that weren't on the diet and had a pizza once the next week. This past weekend, I had one cheat meal and it was 3 hotdogs with mustard.
Other than that, really nothing has changed. My macros are consistent.
Maybe I'm in recomp since I didn't workout for a long time and gaining some of the muscle back. Could be holding some water too.
I need to be measuring circumference of arms, waist, legs, and chest.
Alternate meals would be
Carb balance tortilla
3 eggs
3 bacon
1 oz cheddar cheese
6oz chicken
1 cup tabouleh
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:24 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Stay with the same macros for the next two weeks. Measure waist size and check for movement. Bet you are recomping due to not working out for a while.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:46 am to lsu777
I'm back in 
Posted on 7/9/19 at 7:58 am to tduecen
Currently at 41 hours and 1 min into my fast. 
so hungry
so hungry
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:00 am to lsu777
The 48-72hr mark is always the worst for me even doing a 21 day water fast.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:12 am to lsu777
One complaint about Avatar so far - i overate protein yesterday and I can't swap the extra out for other macros
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:43 am to Hulkklogan
Set your protein to high. And yes you can, just mark as compliant at the end of the week
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:12 am to lsu777
I just mean there's no "swap" feature like they have for carbs/fats. Sure, I can eat less carbs one day to make up for and mark compliant, but it'd be nice if it was all built in.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:14 am to Hulkklogan
Yea and it should be. Protein should be able to be subbed for either macro so long as the minimal fat and fiber is met.
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