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Positive ion water filtration & alkalinity: Do you believe the hype?
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/5/18 at 2:57 pm
My boss bought a $2,000 ion filter which positively charges the water (from a natural negative state) and adjusts the pH to the 9.5 range.
New studies say that water gets into the cells via a very narrow, negatively charged channel and that this machine keeps water molecules from bonding together, as well as positively charging it and keeping the bonding from happening.
Free, positive charged water molecules are then more apt to pass through this channel into the cell.
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New studies say that water gets into the cells via a very narrow, negatively charged channel and that this machine keeps water molecules from bonding together, as well as positively charging it and keeping the bonding from happening.
Free, positive charged water molecules are then more apt to pass through this channel into the cell.
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The Life MXL-7 Next Generation makes alkaline water with higher antioxidant potential, and more acid-fighting alkalinity at a water pH that is optimized for daily drinking. What does this mean? Health experts recommend that you drink alkaline water with a pH of 9.5 daily for better health because a pH of 9.5 is the optimum pH for maintaining your body’s pH balance. The Life MXL-7 Next Generation was designed to give you the highest antioxidant potential of alkaline water at that level, so it’s perfect for maintaining your good health.
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Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:05 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Do you believe the hype?
No
ETA longer answer:
People have been selling magic water for thousands of years. Holy water. Glacial water. Homeopathic cures. Natural spring waters full of cancer fighting minerals. There was this Indian doctor a number of years ago named Dr. Batmansomethingorother selling water as a cure for AIDS. I'm highly skeptical of magical waters until an impressive body of research from 3rd parties not profiting off water sales holds up to extensive peer review.
This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 7/5/18 at 3:59 pm to LSUAlum2001
Sounds like horse shite
Posted on 7/5/18 at 4:44 pm to Huey Lewis
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I'm highly skeptical of magical waters until an impressive body of research from 3rd parties not profiting off water sales holds up to extensive peer review.
This. Until that point, water is water and water is good.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 6:04 pm to Rep520
We do know that cancer thrives in a acidic environment. I would drink alkaline water for that reason alone.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 7:26 pm to tenderfoot tigah
This 100x over.
Essentia bottled water has a pH of 8.5 if you’re looking for a decent bottled product.
Essentia bottled water has a pH of 8.5 if you’re looking for a decent bottled product.
This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 7/5/18 at 7:30 pm to LSUAlum2001
I believe in trying to keep an alkalinity environment but I dunno if these systems work.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 7:40 pm to LSUAlum2001
Nah. I just drink tap water. Dats some high quality H2O.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:24 pm to DeafJam73
I use a supplement from Ten Performance called Hydrocell. 8 drops in a liter.
Bottle lasts a month.
If anyone needs some I have 4-5 bottles of it.
Bottle lasts a month.
If anyone needs some I have 4-5 bottles of it.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:45 pm to tenderfoot tigah
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We do know that cancer thrives in a acidic environment. I would drink alkaline water for that reason alone.
I wish fighting cancer was as simple as drinking magic water. Snake oil salesmen have used these sorts of claims for hundreds if not thousands of years.
Here are some links with information explaining why ionized water is a scam:
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Summary:
- "Ionized" water is a bullshite term. Water can't stay ionized and so any benefits attributed to it being allegedly ionized are dubious.
- High pH water is quickly neutralized in the stomach. The body's pH cannot be changed by water, alkaline diets or any other pseudoscience methods, and doing so would cause metabolic acidosis/metabolic alkalosis anyway, which is bad.
- Even if alkaline water has beneficial effects, it doesn't take an absurdly expensive Rube Goldberg machine to make alkaline drinking water anyway. You can do it easily at home with bleach. Here's a CDC link explaining how:
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ETA: You could also use baking soda.
This post was edited on 7/5/18 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 7/5/18 at 8:59 pm to Huey Lewis
Pretty much what I figured.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:18 pm to LSUAlum2001
I got a good deal on some dehydrated water a while back. Just add water and it’s good to go.
Posted on 7/5/18 at 10:45 pm to LSUAlum2001
I don’t know enough to make an educated response on this topic, but alkaline water was brought up ona podcast that I listened to recently. At a very high level, the alkaline water could start to bring the pH of your stomach acid up, thus negatively impacting digestion and absorption of nutrients over time. Sounds plausible, but I don’t know either way.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:08 pm to LSUAlum2001
Maybe a placebo effect but I’ve felt a slight difference when I would drink the essential water that had a ph of 8.5. The price wasn’t terrible
Your body is about 7.4-7.5. You don’t need the ones that are 9.0 or higher; heck even 8.5 maybe be detrimental in the long run
Your body is about 7.4-7.5. You don’t need the ones that are 9.0 or higher; heck even 8.5 maybe be detrimental in the long run
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 1:15 pm to hogbody
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I got a good deal on some dehydrated water a while back. Just add water and it’s good to go.
I’ve tried it. Stuff is legit. It’s even better with ice.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:32 pm to Huey Lewis
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No
Ditto. It's a scam.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 3:44 pm to Huey Lewis
That Hydroviv article is very good (haven't yet read the others you linked).
This part makes me think that any benefit is either a placebo effect (as noted in this thread) or possibly benefits from the leftover added electrolytes (see other recent thread on that topic) that don't get converted into draino and bleach:
This part makes me think that any benefit is either a placebo effect (as noted in this thread) or possibly benefits from the leftover added electrolytes (see other recent thread on that topic) that don't get converted into draino and bleach:
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To get around this, water ionizers use “enhancement solutions” which essentially allow the user to add salt to increase the conductivity of the water and thus make the “strongest ionized water” with the device. When a solution of sodium chloride undergoes electrolysis, sodium hydroxide (dilute drain cleaner) is created at the cathode, which can be drawn off as “alkaline water.” At the anode, chlorine builds up and if it is combined with hydroxide ions at the cathode, creating an hypochlorous acid, the protonated form of laundry bleach. A water ionizer is essentially a very expensive way to create dilute solutions of household chemicals.
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:36 am to McLemore
Does vinegar also do nothing?
Posted on 7/7/18 at 8:58 am to tenderfoot tigah
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Does vinegar also do nothing?
To blood pH? Similar analysis (as above re water) of effect on blood pH of things you put in your body. (Sorry I butchered that sentence.)
But ACV w mother has been shown to have some benefits. I don't think it's a miracle cure for anything though.
ETA:
The acv research on blood sugar regulation is probably the most interesting to me.
It is part of my routine, along w some other folks remedies that I do just in case any of the hype is real.
Others:
--ceylon cinnamon
--CBD
--bone broth
--curcumin (concentrated turmeric w black pepper)
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/10/18 at 10:36 am to McLemore
Is CBD legal? And can you pass a drug test while on it.
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