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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38064 posts
Posted on 9/21/22 at 2:03 pm to
i like to do like wendler suggest

90% training max taken off of the real max

every month i like to bump the real max 5 lbs on upper body, 10lbs on lower and take the 90% training max off the new number.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14155 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:01 pm to
Any of you ever run The Seesaw? I'm thinking about running that one in the next few months.
Posted by Ivor Lewis
Member since Jul 2022
16 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 2:42 pm to
Yes!
I think Seesaw is fantastic. I ran it 3 months in a row for March, April, May. It’s a 3 day program. Squat/bench every day with occasional deadlift variations (sumo/snatch grip). Not great if deadlifts are your focus. I saw great bench and squat gains.

I feel like the 3 day programs don’t get much love on here. Due to my work schedule 3 day programs work better for me. I rotate seesaw and turnt up (new and remastered) regularly. I also did oak tree a long time ago but wasn’t super impressed. I found myself adding extra accessory lifts.

On a separate note does anyone notice some programs take a really long time to complete? Day 3 of turnt up and some of the stacked/jacked days really take a while to get through. I find it’s easily 2 hrs+ sometimes. I time and track all my workouts on my garmin fenix 7x so I’m keeping my rest times honest. I find I need more warm up sets. For example my bench Tmax is 280 right now. I will do the bar warm up’s as recommended in the program but then I will do 135 2 sets of 10, then 185 for a couple of reps before I get to my working sets. Does anyone else have these issues? I still love the programs but a 2 hr 45 min session in a 85+ degree garage can be rough.
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
2035 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

n a separate note does anyone notice some programs take a really long time to complete? Day 3 of turnt up and some of the stacked/jacked days really take a while to get through. I find it’s easily 2 hrs+ sometimes. I time and track all my workouts on my garmin fenix 7x so I’m keeping my rest times honest. I find I need more warm up sets. For example my bench Tmax is 280 right now. I will do the bar warm up’s as recommended in the program but then I will do 135 2 sets of 10, then 185 for a couple of reps before I get to my working sets. Does anyone else have these issues? I still love the programs but a 2 hr 45 min session in a 85+ degree garage can be rough.


Pretty much why I had to dump turnt up two weeks in, 3 days sounds great until you grind through a 2 hour work out. I switch to arm farm and just completed the 4 week program today, hardly any workouts went over an hour and ten min, most right at an hour.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38064 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:16 pm to
I am older and have a much longer warm up with mobility etc to get me ready to lift so yea some of these get long as shite. S&J and turnt up scare me. Strongville got to be brutal at the end.

Btw glad to have another new guy around in the ppsa threads.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
11770 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:16 am to
I have a hard time sticking to the rest time on the programs. Maybe I’m not lifting enough but I’m following the percentages based on my max. Most times I just don’t feel I need 3 minutes between sets. shite adds up.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44930 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Most times I just don’t feel I need 3 minutes between sets. shite adds up.


I get that way at the start of the workout but usually by the superset my watch goes off sooner than I expect.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

Beginning Numbers:
5'8"
176#
22 BF%

Pool Season 1 is in the books. Results are as follows:

Still 5’8” :(
177#
21.1% BF

Once again… Big Pump Fridays are no joke.
Worth every penny. Pool Season 2 starts Monday.


Pool Season 2 down.

181#
21.4% BF

Most noticeable gains are in the shoulder and upper back.

Shoulders 2.5" increase
Chest 1.5" increase
Arms 0.5" increase

A little review:

Supersets, supersets, supersets.

These take time. I'd say a 90 minute average.

Well worth it. Now I'm on to Elbow Meat.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44930 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:16 pm to
Still 5'8"?
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:16 pm to
Dealing with some sort of injury when doing back squats where my lower trap has sharp pain with the barbell on my back. Front squats and rows/other back exercises don’t seem to aggravate it. So unfortunately going to have to skip Squatober this year and will move on to Filling Out the Hoodie next month. Finishing up Arm Farm this week, absolutely loving the upper body pump at the end of each workout
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Still 5'8"?



Sadly

Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
591 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:33 pm to
I've looked hard at seesaw a few times when trying to pick my next one. I like the programming when we've done it in squatober. My biggest fear is length of workouts like the others guys have said. Arm farm and Fillin out the Hoodie have are both about hour and fifteen at the most. I just don't trust myself to wake up early enough to get anything longer than that in consistently. If i don't do it before work it's just too hard with all the kids extracurriculars.

Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
2035 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:56 am to
Finished up Arm Farm last week. Great plan! Most were right under an hour with warmup. Serious gains in the arms were made, sleeves are tighter than skin on a sausage right now, might have to get some tattoos to complete the look.

Going to repeat it in Oct(bc I have a week long vacation smack in the middle), then move to Filling up the Hoodie 2 in Nov.
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
591 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:30 am to
I'm on the last week of Arm farm this week. I did it last month as well. I agree i also had major gains in arms and shoulders and traps. Great workouts. Really enjoy the super set format. Everyone needs to run this one at least once.
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
11128 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:14 am to
The wife started 21 to Party last week. She's done it before and really likes the focus on bench/squats each twice a week.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1282 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:02 pm to
I was planning to run arm farm after squatober, is there enough volume to maintain squat and deadlift progress?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38064 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

I was planning to run arm farm after squatober, is there enough volume to maintain squat and deadlift progress?


Deadlift & squats- 1x per week- 4 or 5 sets per week
Bench- 2x per week- 8-10 + 3-4 sets of DB incline per week

so i think it does. it has as much as 531 has in the OG template. Key is to use a heavier TM and push those sets hard
Posted by That's BS
Smoothie King Center
Member since Jan 2012
1785 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:39 pm to
Anyone have any recs for an upper body/arms focused 4 day/wk routine to run after Squatober? Would also prefer the workouts stay in the 1 hr range, 1 hr 15 min at most, because I may try to do Rowvember in addition to this workout.
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:22 pm to
Arm farm seems to be the consensus. I love that program. Pool season could work too but Arm Farm is more heavily upper body
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15077 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:40 pm to
Arm farm!
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