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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:16 am to
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
571 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:16 am to
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running would most likely negate your gains.


I’ve heard this before and think it’s bro science.

Can you lift for strength and still run/jog for some cardio health? Sure, it’s just a balance of time and energy. Like anything else. A few miles a couple of times a week isn’t going to hurt anything. Just need to eat enough and sleep enough.

Now, there does come a point where conflicting goals start taking time and energy away from each other. Like training for a bodybuilding competition and marathon at the same time. Both take lots of calories and time. One of the goals will have to give. But, I don’t think that’s what we are talking about here.

The question becomes. Why do it? Is it worth the time and energy?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:51 am to
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I’ve heard this before and think it’s bro science.

Can you lift for strength and still run/jog for some cardio health? Sure, it’s just a balance of time and energy. Like anything else. A few miles a couple of times a week isn’t going to hurt anything. Just need to eat enough and sleep enough.

Now, there does come a point where conflicting goals start taking time and energy away from each other. Like training for a bodybuilding competition and marathon at the same time. Both take lots of calories and time. One of the goals will have to give. But, I don’t think that’s what we are talking about here.

The question becomes. Why do it? Is it worth the time and energy?



i agree, but if the goal is to get the most of the program size and aesthetics wise, running is not the way to go about it. It will slice into recovery, where walking is really part of recovery.

i would suggest doing like Aaron says and walking an hour everyday, you dont really need much more than that anyways.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 7:52 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:54 am to
i did day 2 of silverback last night. Enjoyed it and the lower volume. I will say i do feel like there is something to the weighted chins supersetted with heavy pull overs, for back health.

My back feels awesome today and it was cracking like crazy last night. I feel its something with the tractioning effect of the weighted chins, combined with the heavy weight over the chest while the back is on a small object.

normally the day of and after deadlifts, my back hurts pretty good, not today.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15077 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 8:50 am to
Day 2 of Pregame later today. I re-did day 1 with my neighbor yesterday since he missed the first lift last week.

Thought my lift would suffer from lack of sleep due to the newborn, but I felt damn good getting a lift in after a few days of no real physical activity.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 8:51 am
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11656 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:21 am to
In the past when I had to shed weight fast, I would lift 3-4 days a week and run 2 miles 1-2 days a week. I like to do 10 mins of jump roping after a workout. 45s on, 15s off.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:18 am to
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In the past when I had to shed weight fast, I would lift 3-4 days a week and run 2 miles 1-2 days a week. I like to do 10 mins of jump roping after a workout. 45s on, 15s off.


much easier to just not eat as much
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44931 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:24 am to
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much easier to just not eat as much


I'm supposed to be eating like a gorilla now. I really was just wanting to run a bit to keep up my cardio fitness level but I may take a 4 week break and see what I can do with the program.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12941 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:32 pm to
Question on elbow meat...There are 4 different "grip work" exercises. You do grip work #1 each day of week 1, grip work #2 each day of week 2, etc. except for week 1 day 5 it says to do grip work #2. Think that was a typo? Or is there a particular reason he would program 4 sessions of grip work #1 and 6 sessions of grip work #2?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Question on elbow meat...There are 4 different "grip work" exercises. You do grip work #1 each day of week 1, grip work #2 each day of week 2, etc. except for week 1 day 5 it says to do grip work #2. Think that was a typo? Or is there a particular reason he would program 4 sessions of grip work #1 and 6 sessions of grip work #2?


prolly a typo, but dont think it really makes a difference either way.
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
571 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:05 pm to
Just bought the remastered version of Silverback. Thinking about doing it mixed with some sprints and jumping or Strong and Fast AF in September before Squatober.

I had said I was going to do Let’s Pregame, but I thought about it and I don’t really want to do squats every workout the month before squatober.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36158 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:24 pm to
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Why do it? Is it worth the time and energy?


PPSA has transformed my views on lifting, never would I have thought that you could work out a body part more than twice a week but I did that with Pool Season 1 & 2 and I saw some great gains. Previously I had been spending about an hour per day for 5 days a week in the gym working one major portion of the body with 30 minutes of cardio mixed in with minimal results. Again, ymmv but cutting out traditional cardio like elliptical and treadmill and adding in 30+ minutes of lifting has made a massive difference.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1282 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:41 am to
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remastered version of Silverback

I bought that yesterday as well. I’ll be running it after squatober. Unless there is a deadcember or whatever.

I’ve got two days left of Brickhouse. I’ve enjoyed it. Well, not the carries and chins, but only because my elbow is injured in some way. Bench has probably stayed the same, but at 2x a week that’s not bad for me. Ive always responded better to higher frequency. As for squat and deadlifts, they have exploded. All this while losing 5lbs is a win for me.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44931 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:57 am to
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Unless there is a deadcember or whatever.


I think I’m going with All I Want for Christmas is a Big Bench in December.
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:02 am to
I thought I may do 2 months of Stacked Jacked prior to Squatober but these workouts are so GD long. I like them, I just am used to 45-60 min workouts and these are 75-90 min.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:55 am to
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I bought that yesterday as well. I’ll be running it after squatober. Unless there is a deadcember or whatever.

I’ve got two days left of Brickhouse. I’ve enjoyed it. Well, not the carries and chins, but only because my elbow is injured in some way. Bench has probably stayed the same, but at 2x a week that’s not bad for me. Ive always responded better to higher frequency. As for squat and deadlifts, they have exploded. All this while losing 5lbs is a win for me.


so deadcember is run by Daniel McKim LINK, 5x highland games world champion, not aaron of ppsa. They are similar but most people prefer ppsa programming over the deadcember programming.

Personally, I am going to play it by ear but prolly gonna focus on upper body more so prolly will do a bench program.

deadcember usually consist of

1) some form of deadlift usually 3 or 4 sets
2) bench or squat variation, usually 3 or 4 sets

superset #1 is usually some type of back work or kb swings combined ab work. its usually 3 exercises so more giant set format, usually 3 rounds

superset #2 is usually 2 exercsises combined with ab work for 3 rounds

cardio section....usually says dont do it lol

recoery is usually eat a certain little debbie cake as Daniel is leader of the little debbie lifting team


example from last years deadcemeber
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:56 am to
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I think I’m going with All I Want for Christmas is a Big Bench in December.


that is prolly what i am going to run. I have on call duty the week between christmas and new years, so going to be home anyways. Might as well.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:57 am to
quote:

I thought I may do 2 months of Stacked Jacked prior to Squatober but these workouts are so GD long. I like them, I just am used to 45-60 min workouts and these are 75-90 min.


S&J is the hardest ppsa program imo and AA's. I think strongville and periodic table of thickness are right behind that.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:40 pm to
So after loking at some things I think i am looking at doing the following after squatober

Nov- Arm Farm
December- All I want for Christmas is a big bench
Jan- Stacked Jacked and turning heads
Feb- Filling out the Hoodie 1
March- Filling out the Hoodie 2
April- Hypertrophy
May- Pool Season 1
June- Pool Season 2

Really trying to hit the upper body hard until like next august.


Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36158 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:20 pm to
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Really trying to hit the upper body hard until like next august.



You want those chesticles up into your chin?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:30 pm to
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You want those chesticles up into your chin?




Mainly trying to get those triceps up lol
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