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re: Pen and Paper Strength App

Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1712 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 1:46 pm to
I'm partial to doing skullcrushers with dumbbells.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36118 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

I'm partial to doing skullcrushers with dumbbells.



tried this for the first time the other day and I am not sure how to feel about it. My usual routine pre-PPSA was to use a EZ-bar but holding two DBs was a little different.

Side note: Since I have started using PPSA I have packed on 2 lbs of muscle in the midst of some hardcore vacations and lackadaisical dieting.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12925 posts
Posted on 6/29/22 at 5:39 pm to
You can look into Defranco's rolling tricep extensions as another alternative for skullcrushers
Posted by NolaLovingClemsonFan
Member since Jan 2020
2123 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 5:39 am to
All, I couldn’t help but stumble upon this thread after seeing how many replies it had, has to be one of the longest ongoing threads on the board.

I googled and was able to find this guy’s website so I can find the different programs. A couple questions:

-Do you need to do them in any sort of order or can you pick any of them?

-Do you need some baseline fitness or strength level to perform them? I’m fairly fit but want to make sure I don’t need to start at a certain level or with a certain program

-Do you really get that much better results from following this sort of a program? I’ve always been someone who keeps their programming super standard and generic. I do 5x5 or 531 for major lifts, and then I add in a supplementary lift or two. What will be the difference between something like that and a specialized program like these?

Appreciate the help!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:24 am to
quote:

-Do you need to do them in any sort of order or can you pick any of them?



no order. i suggest picking based off your goals. most here can help steer you in the right direction on which way to go.

quote:

-Do you need some baseline fitness or strength level to perform them? I’m fairly fit but want to make sure I don’t need to start at a certain level or with a certain program



if you have been doing this
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. I do 5x5 or 531 for major lifts, and then I add in a supplementary lift or two

then you will be more than fine.

quote:

-Do you really get that much better results from following this sort of a program?


there is nothing special about PPSA, just like there is nothing special abotu 531, greyskull etc. they are all just properly programmed strength training.

quote:

What will be the difference between something like that and a specialized program like these?



i wouldnt consider ppsa specialized. More so just basic and properly programmed strength training.

ppsa has really good basic strength but imo where it shines is the waving of volume in the supplemental lifts to allow the user to pursue specific goals in certain body parts.

do i think you will get better results....i do. Aaron Ausmus is one of the best strength coaches in the country and is really really good at adding size and strength to normal people as evidence by this thread. But you will always get better results if you write the program out and follow it imo. I do this even with my own programming and have seen that i do much better if its written down.

also if someone else writes the program and its printed out, people tend to do every rep and not skip things like they would in their own programming.

let the group know what your goals are and they will help you.
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:37 am to
I ran variations of 5/3/1 for about a year and a half before I switched to PPSA. I’ve seen significant physique improvements running his programs over the last few months compared to 5/3/1. Mainly due to what 777 mentioned about the supplemental lifts and also just the mentality of not skipping stuff someone else wrote compared to something I wrote.

I’ve been running Pool Season 1&2. Mainly depends on what your goals are for what program is right for you, but the programs I’ve reviewed all look solid
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10565 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 1:25 pm to
Something about doing these programs just gets me results. Everything is laid out well and it's nothing exotic, I can do everything in the program with my home gym set up.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 5:39 pm to
What’s everyone running right now? Trying to decide on my next one.

Finishing up pool season II tomorrow.

I’ve done grasshopper, arm farm 2, and pool season 2.

Going to actually diet in July so hoping shred down a little more. Physique is looking so much better since training with PPSA. Almost want to switch to a 5 day, but I’ve been so consistent with the 4 day per week that I don’t want to mess that up.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted by NolaLovingClemsonFan
Member since Jan 2020
2123 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 7:18 pm to
Where do I go to research which program is best?

As far as what I’m looking for goals or physique-wise, I’m tall and thin, think swimmers body. I’d like to steer into that on the upper body, bigtime on the shoulders and back. Then for lower body I just want thickness. I’ve never been able to gain any real mass on my lower body.

Any programs y’all recommend for that would be great! I can do 4 or 5 days a week programs on my schedule. I’d prefer 5 but could do 4 if that’s best. Appreciate the recs!
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10565 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 8:07 pm to
Pool season 2, filling out the hoodie or silverback are what you are looking for.

Pool season 2 is heavy on shoulder and upper back work.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:15 pm to
As mentioned any of the pool season, filling out the hoodies, Silverback, periodic table of thickness and Stacked,Jacked and Turning Heads will be what you are looking for
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 6/30/22 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

What’s everyone running right now? Trying to decide on my next one.

Finishing up pool season II tomorrow.

I’ve done grasshopper, arm farm 2, and pool season 2.

Going to actually diet in July so hoping shred down a little more. Physique is looking so much better since training with PPSA. Almost want to switch to a 5 day, but I’ve been so consistent with the 4 day per week that I don’t want to mess that up.



I'm doing filling out the hoodie but half arse. Been having all stars every night for youngest so been far and few between. Go on vacation after next week, we'll restart when I get back.

Any of the programs work for cutting but Grasshopper would prolly work best due to lower volume overall imo
Posted by NolaLovingClemsonFan
Member since Jan 2020
2123 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 4:41 am to
Thanks fellas. Next week will be a bit of a wash with the holidays but gonna start pool season 2 the week after.

Looking forward to it!
Posted by benfasa
Member since May 2018
84 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 4:46 am to
I just finished week 3 of Stacked, Jacked and Turning Heads. Plan on running it again, then another program twice before leading in to Squatober-Benchaholic-Deadcember to finish the year.

I had been running the Stronger by Science Reps to Failure Template since January and I loved it. However, I almost always ended my session after my compound lifts. 5 days a week and only did back and ab accessories consistently. Like others have said, having the accessory work planned out for me has been the difference between doing them and not doing them.
Posted by Mockingbird2008
Member since Jun 2022
143 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:43 am to
I am doing week 1 day 4 for pool season 1 today. This is my first time doing a PPS workout plan. It calls for 200 dumbbell shrugs for “cardio”. Is that one set of 200 or 200 total?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

I am doing week 1 day 4 for pool season 1 today. This is my first time doing a PPS workout plan. It calls for 200 dumbbell shrugs for “cardio”. Is that one set of 200 or 200 total?


total in as few of sets as possible.
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1712 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:21 am to
That first "Big Pump Friday" on Pool Season is a killer.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 8:38 am to
Does filling out the hoodie have deadlifts? Doesn’t mention it in the description. Just says squats once a week.

I honestly like squatting and deadlifting 2x’s per week.
This post was edited on 7/1/22 at 8:39 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38052 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:00 am to
filling out the hoodie 1 only had snatch grip deads and its never as teh main strength lift

filling out the hoodie 2 has deadlifts 1x a week and then snatch grip deads once per week as the main strength lift that day.

both only have squats once per week
Posted by Mockingbird2008
Member since Jun 2022
143 posts
Posted on 7/1/22 at 9:34 am to
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That first "Big Pump Friday" on Pool Season is a killer


The low % on bench press seems easy but I guess I am underestimating.
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