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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:19 am to
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 7:19 am to
I saw three or maybe they were the same snake on the loops cus it was a blue runner about the same size in the same general area. I have grown up in south Louisiana so not really worried about out the whole snake/aligator thing.
I did get popped by some red wasp on the hammy and was running a 3.5min pace for about 15 paces lol
This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 7:20 am
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10039 posts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 5:19 pm to
For any nerds

I am currently in the process of building a running tracker that normalizes my runs for distance, HR, as well as weather to see if I am actually improving.



WSI - Weather Stress Index (How frickin hot it is)
=Temp*SQRT(Humidity/100)-(Temp-14.55)*(1-SQRT(Humidity/100))

WAT - Weather adjusted time (Pace adjusted for ideal weather (Baseline WSI is 33.26 which is 70 degree with 50% humidity)
=Seconds/(1+(WSI-Baseline WSI)*0.002)

WAHR - Weather adjusted HR (HR adjusted for the weather)

=HR-((Temp-60)*0.5+(Humidity-50)*0.2)

FEI - Fitness Efficiency Index (Adjusts for long run, idk if it gives long runs too much credit or not)
=(100000*(Distance^0.2))/(WAT*WAHR)

Runs under 3 miles have been removed from data. If anyone cares to actually look at this, suggestions are welcome and appreciated as I'm new to this.

This post was edited on 7/13/25 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/13/25 at 10:12 pm to
12 miles on the treadmill, 44 on the week.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 9:47 am to
Did a workout this morning to test my Goodwill Endorphin Pro 3’s.

I’m loathe to even share this, but it’s really not a secret. Goodwill has an auction website where they send most of the things they believe have value. Can often find good stuff for cheap. The catch, and it’s a big one, is they don’t always authenticate (more on that in a moment) and the auctions are set up to allow literally last second sniping…so auctions for good stuff are really hard to win and often end up exceeding eBay prices. But…sometimes you get a win and I managed to score some authentic pretty much brand new Endorphin Pro 3’s for $44 shipped. I also got some Vaporfly 3’s for $88 but they ended up being fake so they’re going back for a refund.

I think I like the Endorphin better than the VF3. More firm and bouncy, don’t feel like I’m compressing the foam as much. They were pretty good at 7/7:20 pace and really woke up around 6:50 or faster.

I have some Adios Pro 3’s coming soon to round out my 2+ year old race shoe review/selection. Have high hopes for those.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/14/25 at 10:08 am to
For those of your who do ultras, have any of you run the Rocky Racoon in Huntsville, TX?

Really thinking about doing the 100 next year
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 11:50 am to
quote:

For those of your who do ultras, have any of you run the Rocky Racoon in Huntsville, TX? Really thinking about doing the 100 next year

Have not run it but I am planning to run a 50m next year which is my 50th birthday. Buddy of mine who has run several ultras told me that it’s a great 50m race along with the the MS50 in laurel Mississippi.
He vouched for both of them.
Posted by ks_nola
Bozeman
Member since Sep 2015
749 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 12:04 pm to
I haven’t run Rocky but can find out info if you have specific questions.

MS50 which also has 100 mile and 50k option is well organized. Can’t say the course is anything special. If it’s rained much it will be rather muddy. I’ve crewed/paced for the 100, SO won the female 50 miler few years ago and know most of the male winners if you have specific questions.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18694 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

MS50 which also has 100 mile and 50k option is well organized. Can’t say the course is anything special. If it’s rained much it will be rather muddy. I’ve crewed/paced for the 100, SO won the female 50 miler few years ago and know most of the male winners if you have specific questions.


Rocky Racoon was HIGHLY recommended by a few people I know, they said there is only 1 really big climb, and since you do the loop 5 times you do that climb 5 times and that's it.

MS50 seems good from what I just saw on their website, but feels like there isn't anything "special" about it. Is the MS50 a 50 miler 1 way race? So for the 100 miler you would just do the loop twice? The GPS data I saw for it also looked like it was 2 miles short for the 50 miler, so that would mean the 100 miler would be 4 miles short... not sure how I feel about that.

I would think both of the races are technical enough to justify cleats instead of road shoes? 4k - 5k feet of elevation isn't a whole lot, but feels like just enough to justify trails shoes.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by ks_nola
Bozeman
Member since Sep 2015
749 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 3:36 pm to
MS50 / 100 is a little odd with the course loops. There are 2. One being 12ish miles and the other being 6ish. For the 50 you run 3 of the bigger and then 2 of the smaller. All loops go through the start/finish which is the area you would set up for any crew.

Terrain varies a little but would t call it technical. Trail shoe is better option especially if it’s rained any as the course is known to be muddy with possibly some unavoidable water crossings. It’s mid March so you can also get a really cold day or really hot. Not considered fast course but most likely need 18hr to win and sub 24 should be fairly easy
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 7/14/25 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

MS50 seems good from what I just saw on their website, but feels like there isn't anything "special" about it. Is the MS50 a 50 miler 1 way race? So for the 100 miler you would just do the loop twice? The GPS data I saw for it also looked like it was 2 miles short for the 50 miler, so that would mean the 100 miler would be 4 miles short... not sure how I feel about that.

I was some what trying to find an out and back course for my 50k but after running a 20m which was two ten mile loops I realized that I wasn’t really paying attention to my surroundings. I spent the race looking at my footing to not slip and what was ahead as my next climb to hike who was I gonna try to pass or keep ahead of and my nutrition and HR.
I’m a hunter first and runner second and I might have ran by 10 wall hangers and never knew it.
I have changed my approach to the following, elevation or lack of, temps, vibe or friendly venues and cool location only if I can roll a wknd vacation into it before or after.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18694 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:33 am to
about to go do my first "varied workout" with 2 miles at pace followed by 6 400s... we shall see how it goes

Results:
Mile 1: 6:47
Mile 2: 6:58
400m
1: 1:30 (6:03 pace)
2: 1:28 (5:56)
3: 1:28 (5:56)
4: 1:30 (6:04)
5: 1:28 (5:56)
6: 1:30 (6:04)
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44399 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:12 pm to
It’s hot. Like Satan’s butt crack hot. 40 mins @ 142HR followed by a 40 min tempo at 165HR. Pace has truly suffered due to the heat.
Posted by ks_nola
Bozeman
Member since Sep 2015
749 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:03 am to
Nike VF3 multiple sizes but only one color option for $150 at Dicks
LINK
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18694 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 2:18 pm to
Pretty Amazing Video Posted by Phily Bowden 10 days ago about the 80/20 model

P.S: Towards the 15 minute mark she pauses her watch to go up a hill, I laughed a little
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 2:20 pm
Posted by RunAsAdmin
Member since Mar 2025
121 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:24 pm to
2 weeks no running, honest this time. Did myrtl everyday, if not twice a day. Glute bridges, clamshells with bands, stretches, all of the God dang things you are supposed to do for ITBS. Will try a 4-5 mile run tomorrow. For the love of all that is holy, if it flares up again I am going to lose it.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44399 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:03 pm to
Cross trained on the slide board today. Weighted vest and some dumbbells. One hour at 140HR.
Posted by RunAsAdmin
Member since Mar 2025
121 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:31 am to
4 at 9:20.
Good news: IT band felt fine during run, was able to speed up towards the end to stretch legs.

Bad news: forgot I gave blood Monday so I was woozy after I got done. I have about a 10 minute drive home and coming up the stairs, felt that familiar pain on the outside of knee.

Going to take another week off running and continue to do what I've been doing recovery wise and try it again next weekend.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Bad news: forgot I gave blood Monday so I was woozy after I got done. I have about a 10 minute drive home and coming up the stairs, felt that familiar pain on the outside of knee

Do you have any tightness in your quads/glutes/ham/calf?
My ITB issue kept lingering and I had a tenderness in my glutes an calf that wouldn’t go away. I had it dry needle last Monday then ran a race Saturday no issue.
Currently it’s a slight discomfort but Im attacking it hard with the following. Sat/sun-rolling Monday-PT cupping. Tues-normatec boots for 15min and rolling
Wed-rolling and stretch
Today rolling and theragun and gonna normatec this evening.
Hoping to test run maybe by the wknd.
Posted by RunAsAdmin
Member since Mar 2025
121 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 12:49 pm to
Nah, no soreness anywhere. It didn't hurt at all during run today, but now that I'm back at the house sitting down i can feel it getting stiff, sharp pain extending the knee after having it bent etc. I'll try anything, been dealing with this since April.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4197 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

I'll try anything, been dealing with this since April.

I know the frustration!! I’m curious to see how mine reacts this wknd. If I have any muscle soreness this wknd I will not run on it and go get dry needles on any problem spots immediately instead of fighting it as long as I did.
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