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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:05 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:05 pm to jimbeam
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Run slower. At those temps you might have to run 45 seconds slower than you are supposed to
I'll add that carrying a frozen water bottle helps tremendously. I have one that is designed for running (it has a handle on it). Anyway, I don't drink from it, but poor ice water on my head as I go. It really helps.
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:45 pm to goldennugget
On hot days, you just have to forget about what your workout will look like on Strava. It sucks, but it is absolutely necessary to slow down. Depending on the heat index and the length of the workout, you may have to slow down as much as 2 minutes per mile to stay at your target effort. It's just part of running, especially if you live in the bottom 2/3 of the US.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:31 pm to goldennugget
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So, what I want to know is, should I work on getting acclimated to the heat, or just run at night? Even though the temps here at night are still in the 100s, at least the sun isn't shining. I'd rather run in higher air temps, lower surface temps than vice versa.
Everyone’s answer is going to be “run slower” that’s running heart rate. You didn’t ask about pace or HR data; matter of fact you said that you achieved the 50 minutes easily... acclimation will come with running in those conditions. Be cautious for sure but the answer isn’t run slower, you set a baseline for 50 minutes in the weather you prefer running in at the pace you’ve been prescribed. Acclimate to your baseline (50 minutes at pace at temp) then build.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:30 pm to DukeSilver
Duke
Ironman galveston half is generally early spring. goggle says Ironman 70.3 Texas is Sunday, April 10, 2022. Good news is you can easily be ready for this in 10 months.
First advice: start swimming distance. your home pool unless its 25 yds long isn't going to cut it because you'll spend all your time turning and pushing off the wall. Make sure at some point you practice open water swimming. You don't want to show up on race day and never been in open water having to spot markers. Offats Bayou where the swim is can still get choppy if windy.
Second point of advice - if you don't have a bike already, get one soon and get comfortable riding it. you don't have to have a tri specific bike but they make them for a reason. If you currently have a road bike and get a tri bike there still will be some adjusting to it to be comfortable. Peloton is a good alternative but nothing beats actual saddle time on the road in the elements. The bay front road for the course can be windy.
Third point -brick workouts - practice running immediately after your ride. It feels weird.
Triathlon qualification - 5:09 Galveston half finisher - watched youtube swim video for my "lesson", road bike, and I'm a better runner now. And it was windy!
Ironman galveston half is generally early spring. goggle says Ironman 70.3 Texas is Sunday, April 10, 2022. Good news is you can easily be ready for this in 10 months.
First advice: start swimming distance. your home pool unless its 25 yds long isn't going to cut it because you'll spend all your time turning and pushing off the wall. Make sure at some point you practice open water swimming. You don't want to show up on race day and never been in open water having to spot markers. Offats Bayou where the swim is can still get choppy if windy.
Second point of advice - if you don't have a bike already, get one soon and get comfortable riding it. you don't have to have a tri specific bike but they make them for a reason. If you currently have a road bike and get a tri bike there still will be some adjusting to it to be comfortable. Peloton is a good alternative but nothing beats actual saddle time on the road in the elements. The bay front road for the course can be windy.
Third point -brick workouts - practice running immediately after your ride. It feels weird.
Triathlon qualification - 5:09 Galveston half finisher - watched youtube swim video for my "lesson", road bike, and I'm a better runner now. And it was windy!
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:01 am to OysterPoBoy
Got another 5k in this morning.... Went well! Didn’t think I was going to make it considering how hard of a run it was yesterday with the sun AND the humidity beating down on me at 10am. It’s so hard to breathe and it feels like the heat+humidity makes everything so much heavier. Even my lungs. Today it was just the humidity and barely any sun since it was so early in the morning. Came in after working all night and since I have to bring my son to baseball camp, I figured a run would keep me awake and I wouldn’t be cranky. I’ll go to bed when I get home from dropping him off. Beat my PB 5k distance pace by 8 seconds! It’s always the runs where you think you’re going to do terrible that turn out to be the best.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 8:07 am
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:39 pm to ks_nola
quote:Thanks for the response.
ks_nola
quote:Interesting, when I go to the Ironman site it just shows the 2021 date that was in April but I don't see anything for 2022.
Ironman galveston half is generally early spring. goggle says Ironman 70.3 Texas is Sunday, April 10, 2022
quote:Yeah I would definitely take some trips and do some swimming in similar conditions as the Bayou, or even that actual bayou if you can I'm in Houston so close enough. My pool isn't long enough for all of the training but figured it'd help.
First advice: start swimming distance. your home pool unless its 25 yds long isn't going to cut it because you'll spend all your time turning and pushing off the wall. Make sure at some point you practice open water swimming. You don't want to show up on race day and never been in open water having to spot markers. Offats Bayou where the swim is can still get choppy if windy.
I don't have a bike yet but would prob try to get by with a decently priced road bike since I'm just going for completion and not a specific time. I figure the Peloton could be used for most of the training and then start doing rides on the bike to acclimate once it starts getting a little closer.
quote:I've seen this mentioned a lot while reading the last couple days so would definitely do this. How long would you say is needed to get the true effect? Could I do a 30 min hard ride and then a 2 mileish run to get the effect?
Third point -brick workouts - practice running immediately after your ride. It feels weird.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:45 pm to Aubie Spr96
My run yesterday was so much easier. The pace the program had me do was the same as Saturday, only difference was that it was a 30 minute run instead of a 70 minute run and I did nothing different.
Despite it being a little warmer air temperature wise(99 degrees yesterday vs 95 degrees Saturday), it was cloudy, and therefore the sun wasn't beaming down on me and the asphalt raising the ground/surface temperatures.
I had no issues at all. It was easy. My heart rate didn't even go into Zone 5 at all, where as on Saturday it was in Zone 5 72% of the time according to my log. So comparing apples to apples the first 30 minutes on Saturday was much harder.
It's the beaming sun that radiates on my body and on the concrete that makes it hard, not the air temps. Still, I am going to try to acclimate myself anyway to running in the sun although I suppose I could run at night if I really wanted to.
Despite it being a little warmer air temperature wise(99 degrees yesterday vs 95 degrees Saturday), it was cloudy, and therefore the sun wasn't beaming down on me and the asphalt raising the ground/surface temperatures.
I had no issues at all. It was easy. My heart rate didn't even go into Zone 5 at all, where as on Saturday it was in Zone 5 72% of the time according to my log. So comparing apples to apples the first 30 minutes on Saturday was much harder.
It's the beaming sun that radiates on my body and on the concrete that makes it hard, not the air temps. Still, I am going to try to acclimate myself anyway to running in the sun although I suppose I could run at night if I really wanted to.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:02 pm to goldennugget
quote:i would sure as hell hope not
I had no issues at all. It was easy. My heart rate didn't even go into Zone 5 at all,
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:37 pm to goldennugget
I’m not a huge fan of starting my runs when it’s already hot with the sun in the sky. Makes the back half a slog as it warms up even more because I’m too stubborn to proactively moderate my pace
I don’t really pay attention to heart rate in the summer, but 72% in zone 5 seems like a little much for a 50 minute run. Wonder if you could have slowed down a little and hit the 70 mins
I don’t really pay attention to heart rate in the summer, but 72% in zone 5 seems like a little much for a 50 minute run. Wonder if you could have slowed down a little and hit the 70 mins
Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:42 pm to Prominentwon
What app is that?
Posted on 6/9/21 at 7:42 am to joey barton
Garmin broke. New one should arrive today.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:03 am to TigerFanatic99
Runkeeper
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:06 am to Prominentwon
But why???? was a dog or the police chasing you or something?? 
just messing with you, impressed. much better than i could do
just messing with you, impressed. much better than i could do
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:40 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
Currently acclimating and am still taking it “easy” on the track.
3 up 12x400 mileish pace plus 6 strides 3 and some change down. 13ish total for the workout.
3 up 12x400 mileish pace plus 6 strides 3 and some change down. 13ish total for the workout.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:33 am to lsu777
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But why???? was a dog or the police chasing you or something??
just messing with you, impressed. much better than i could do
You’ve never seen my try to lift weights and try to attempt good form. I like to think that I’m a pretty athletic guy and pretty damn coordinated. When I try to lift weight in the gym or do workouts that involve lots of movement, I’m a complete failure. I told my wife I feel like this is what a giraffe on ice trying to walk would look like. There were some other words, but have to keep it pc around here
But I KNOW I can run. Anyone can run. I’ve found some success here lately with it. I’ve got 10 more lbs to go the I’m going to hit the free weights after that because I don’t want to get under 185. If I have to look like a retard doing it, then so be it.
I’ll eventually grasp it one way or another. This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 10:36 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 11:53 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
It is warming up but still not "hot" in the mornings here in Kansas yet. I rarely run after 8 in the morning anymore, so acclimating should be easier than it used to be. My vacation in Maine the first week of August will be just what the doctor ordered!
Enjoyed my recovery run in my new Nike React Milers this morning. I also have a new pair of Altra Paradigms that I like save for one issue. The upper in these shoes is separated on the inside of the foot, where each eyelet goes through a separate sort of strap that is anchored to the bottom inside of the shoe. The top piece keeps shifting forward on my right foot, where the edge digs into my navicular bone and makes it tenders as hell. I think I can fix it with some fabric tape this weekend. I hope so, because really like the shoes other than that, and I am hoping to have a 3-pair rotation this year - React and Paradigm for long runs and recovery runs, and Escalante for tempo and speed work.
Enjoyed my recovery run in my new Nike React Milers this morning. I also have a new pair of Altra Paradigms that I like save for one issue. The upper in these shoes is separated on the inside of the foot, where each eyelet goes through a separate sort of strap that is anchored to the bottom inside of the shoe. The top piece keeps shifting forward on my right foot, where the edge digs into my navicular bone and makes it tenders as hell. I think I can fix it with some fabric tape this weekend. I hope so, because really like the shoes other than that, and I am hoping to have a 3-pair rotation this year - React and Paradigm for long runs and recovery runs, and Escalante for tempo and speed work.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:44 pm to LSU Patrick
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My vacation in Maine the first week of August will be just what the doctor ordered!
I was in Maine last year in August and the weather was great, I even was able to wear a sweater.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:15 pm to goldennugget
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I even was able to wear a sweater
That's what I'm talkin' about. I think I'll make a few morning runs up the the top of Cadillac Mountain to catch the sunrise.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:41 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
It's hot in Texas.
That is all.
That is all.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:30 pm to kballa6
havent ran since Saturday. Back at it tomorrow.
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