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Need guidance - 42 year old male
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:00 pm
First, I think Coronavirus may have added years to my life. In the last month I have took charge of my health. No more overeating, fried foods, fast food, cokes (2-3 per day prior). I've done a 180 on my exercise. now I walk, run, bike, do bodyweight exercises, bands, and kettlebells.
I'm 5'11" 232lbs with a decent build, but belly fat and love handles.
Where I need help is it has been a month and I'm not really sure my clothes are fitting better. The scale only shows about 4 pounds lost, not terribly worried about the numbers. Is running undoing my strength training? Should I do more HITT to address this fat? Im eating around 2,000 calories with some intermittent fasting. I find it hard to get more than about 115 g of protein per day. Should I shoot for more? So much conflicting info out there. My main goal? Overall health #1, fitness level #2, looks #3.
I'm 5'11" 232lbs with a decent build, but belly fat and love handles.
Where I need help is it has been a month and I'm not really sure my clothes are fitting better. The scale only shows about 4 pounds lost, not terribly worried about the numbers. Is running undoing my strength training? Should I do more HITT to address this fat? Im eating around 2,000 calories with some intermittent fasting. I find it hard to get more than about 115 g of protein per day. Should I shoot for more? So much conflicting info out there. My main goal? Overall health #1, fitness level #2, looks #3.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:34 pm to SkintBack
Don’t let the scale discourage you. You know if you’ve been eating better and exercising. You’ll be better for all the lifestyle changes.
I feel like 100+ grams of protein is plenty unless you are looking to dramatically increase muscle mass.
Running won’t undo your strength gains. You’re not trying to become a competitive lifter. This isn’t something to worry about
For strength, do you use barbells or mainly body weight?
HIIT type workouts are fun. I’ve always thought that weight loss and fat loss comes from changing what/ how much you eat. High intensity workouts that get your heart rate up definitely will tone your muscle and boost your calorie burn.
I feel like 100+ grams of protein is plenty unless you are looking to dramatically increase muscle mass.
Running won’t undo your strength gains. You’re not trying to become a competitive lifter. This isn’t something to worry about
For strength, do you use barbells or mainly body weight?
HIIT type workouts are fun. I’ve always thought that weight loss and fat loss comes from changing what/ how much you eat. High intensity workouts that get your heart rate up definitely will tone your muscle and boost your calorie burn.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:39 pm to SaintTiger80
Thanks, I appreciate that. I have a few light dumbbells I use for triceps, shoulders and stuff. I have been using closed loop bands for the last 2 workouts. I can really feel the burn with them. I think after 3 months of this I'll see a big difference. hard to reverse 10 years of shite in 1 month.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:41 pm to SkintBack
You didn't get "out of shape" in a month and it will take longer than a month to get back in shape. Keep pushing. I would stay away from the scale if it is discouraging and take note of how your clothes will start fitting better.
I think it takes at least 4 weeks for you to notice and 8 weeks for others to notice your change.
If you slip up, don't give up. One bad meal does not determine the rest of your day/week.
I think it takes at least 4 weeks for you to notice and 8 weeks for others to notice your change.
If you slip up, don't give up. One bad meal does not determine the rest of your day/week.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:11 pm to SkintBack
Use common sense, Eat healthy and burn more than you take in. Laziness is the real enemy
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:13 pm to SkintBack
Have to be patient with the scale.
I counted calories and stayed at 1687 per day. Dropped 1 pound per week until I got back to where I wanted to be.
I counted calories and stayed at 1687 per day. Dropped 1 pound per week until I got back to where I wanted to be.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/18/20 at 3:41 pm to SkintBack
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strength training
So I trained for and ran a marathon and stayed skinny fat. I averaged 40 mile weeks for about 18 months and stayed skinny fat. I might have had some improvements to my weight and physique, but despite the huge burning of calories, I wasn't able to get to a point where I was happy with my progress (physique and overall health wise).
Then I added in weights. Real weights. Not bands or bodyweight exercises. Kettlebells can work if they're heavy enough. But adding in barbell weights changed everything.
I followed a simple plan (Greyskull - there's a huge thread here for it if you want to try it) and built strength. I noticed that my physique changed as my strength changed. As my physique changed, I got more motivated. As I got more motivated, I pushed harder with exercise and diet.
Most people will say it's not necessary to add weights, but for me, it was. It's also fun knowing that you're becoming strong, and a strong body will have good longevity as well.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 4:24 pm to SkintBack
For me, I’ve always experienced a delay when it came to weight loss. It’ll take 3 or so weeks of dieting before I see the results I’m expecting. Once it catches up, it seems the weight starts falling off even faster. Stick with it and take it day by day...
Posted on 4/19/20 at 8:57 am to SkintBack
So I think you are on a good track. Couple things
Are you weighing and tracking everything that goes in your mouth? If not that needs to be your first change. You won't always need to do that but it's usually necessary u til you get a good feel for things.
So the number one thing on the workout is you need to tracking and progressing. The progressive overload principle works with bodyweight also. Set goals and get after it. Doesn't matter if it's barbell work or bodyweight work or anything in between.
For goals, there is a thread called challenges that will give you some ideas. Some other ideas would be to look up the old army or standards and the Marine standards for pullups, set whatever it says you would need to score 100 as your goal. Slowly work toward getting what an 18 year old needs to get 100.
Progression is key.
Are you weighing and tracking everything that goes in your mouth? If not that needs to be your first change. You won't always need to do that but it's usually necessary u til you get a good feel for things.
So the number one thing on the workout is you need to tracking and progressing. The progressive overload principle works with bodyweight also. Set goals and get after it. Doesn't matter if it's barbell work or bodyweight work or anything in between.
For goals, there is a thread called challenges that will give you some ideas. Some other ideas would be to look up the old army or standards and the Marine standards for pullups, set whatever it says you would need to score 100 as your goal. Slowly work toward getting what an 18 year old needs to get 100.
Progression is key.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 9:26 am to SkintBack
Guidance... do what you can now and make some positive changes to your life style (diet, exercise, etc.) because when you hit 50 I think you'll be heading for a helluva uphill climb.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 11:03 am to lsu777
lsu777 thanks sir, I was hoping you would chime in here. I was in the Marines for 5 years and i do love the standards set by the military. The scale actually changes as you age. I am putting up a pullup bar for that reason, pullups are great.
I have a Garmin Fenix that I track all my activities on there, it gives me a lot of info. I have a Garmin Index scale that logs more than just weight.
I agree I need to track my food intake more closely. Thanks! I may report back with progress in 2 or 3 weeks.
I have a Garmin Fenix that I track all my activities on there, it gives me a lot of info. I have a Garmin Index scale that logs more than just weight.
I agree I need to track my food intake more closely. Thanks! I may report back with progress in 2 or 3 weeks.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 11:34 am to SkintBack
Get a set of gymnastics rings I'd you can too. They are awesome.
Posted on 4/19/20 at 8:57 pm to SkintBack
To piggy back off LSU777, you may be eating "better" foods, but may be ingesting too many calories.
Calories in, calories out; If you take consume more food than you need (calories in), the excess calories turn into extra weight. But if you burn more calories than you consume (calories out), you burn stored body fat for energy and you lose weight.
Finding your total daily energy expenditure is key for this and there are calculaties online that will give you a starting point that you can tweak for you personal body.
Also, I would recommend a beginner linear progression weight lifting program once all this madness ends.
Keep up the progress!
Calories in, calories out; If you take consume more food than you need (calories in), the excess calories turn into extra weight. But if you burn more calories than you consume (calories out), you burn stored body fat for energy and you lose weight.
Finding your total daily energy expenditure is key for this and there are calculaties online that will give you a starting point that you can tweak for you personal body.
Also, I would recommend a beginner linear progression weight lifting program once all this madness ends.
Keep up the progress!
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:42 pm to SkintBack
Its how you feel, I do it because I feel like shite when I dont. You'll know its working when you skip for 2 days and everything is off. Keep grinding
Posted on 4/21/20 at 9:45 pm to SkintBack
I’m 44 and have always lifted and done a fair amount of cardio, but over the last 5 years I started boxing conditioning. Over the years I have modified my diet and alcohol consumption but that one exercise routine has absolutely given me the best shape I’ve been in ever.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:31 pm to Bushwackers
I'm looking into that and jump rope. I've rekindled my love for running, even though it's not easy right now. The other day for about 3 minutes I experienced the runners high, I need more of it.
I always said if I quit drinking soft drinks, quit eating out all the damn time, and started moving more the weight would fall off. That hasnt really happened. It's been roughly 5 weeks since I had a soft drink, haven't had fast food in since the first week of March, and I'm exercising 5-6 times per week. Sometimes I'll workout hard, and then go for a 2.5-3 walk with my daughter.
I'm sticking with it, but hopefully every ounce of fat I lose stays off for good. Its gonna be a marathon.
I always said if I quit drinking soft drinks, quit eating out all the damn time, and started moving more the weight would fall off. That hasnt really happened. It's been roughly 5 weeks since I had a soft drink, haven't had fast food in since the first week of March, and I'm exercising 5-6 times per week. Sometimes I'll workout hard, and then go for a 2.5-3 walk with my daughter.
I'm sticking with it, but hopefully every ounce of fat I lose stays off for good. Its gonna be a marathon.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 11:43 am to SkintBack
What else are you eating?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:59 pm to TnMountaineer
I'm at 1541 calories today. 182g carbs, 53g fat, 106g protein. I weigh everything. Scan the barcode when I can. In the last 4 days since I started this thread my daily calories have been 1861, 1705, 2006 and 1541. I probably did tighten up a bit this week.
Posted on 4/29/20 at 10:43 am to SkintBack
Just an update about 10 days later. The scale still hasn't moved, but I can notice some difference in my shirts and comparing progress pics there is a big difference, even from 10 days ago. In the past 10 days I have done 4 strength training workouts, an interval run, and sprints, along with walking and light biking on off days. I need to get this pullup bar done. I have mostly fasted from 4pm until 10am each day. It works for me. Most of all my blood pressure has been good, 120ish/upper 70's. I stayed around 150/95 even with medicine for a while.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 1:06 pm to SkintBack
Another update - down to 224lbs. Cut my mile time from 10:16 to 9:21. I want to start Greyskull tomorrow, but my gym is on reduced hours. I've been seeing decent results with bodyweight, kettlebells, and bands. lsu777 can I adapt Greyskull to bodyweight work? The problem is the low number of reps and lack of incremental progression.
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