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pilsnerpusher
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Mass gainer supplements?

Any suggestions for a mass gainer supplement? My son wants to put on 25 to 30 pounds for football. He's been asked if he'd be willing to move to H back. Good pop in his pads but needs to add weight. We've put 8 pounds on him in the last 4 weeks by eating 4500+ calories a day. He still has visible abs so its good weight. Just tough to eat that much every day with a busy schedule. Thought a mass gainer might make it easier but I don't know what is junk and what is good stuff. Or should we just keep doing what we're doing?


DeafJam73
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I’m assuming he’s in high school. Just keep feeding him and make sure he’s following a good workout program and he’ll be fine. 8 pounds in 4 weeks is a lot. Sounds like what you’re doing is already working. Make sure he’s eating plenty of protein, good carb sources and vegetables. If you can get the calories in by whole foods, that’s the better option. If you really want a supplement, I would get whey protein for post workouts and in between meals. Gold Standard by Optimum Nutrition is a solid brand.


pilsnerpusher
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Yes, we're currently doing gold standard. And an additional 32 oz of whole milk on top of that. We've always eaten fairly healthy. He's a sophomore so he's finally in that phase where he's seeing real progress in the weightroom. Would it be a waste of time/money to do even more protein than the 48 grams we're currently doing with gold standard?


DeafJam73
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If he not having issues gaining weight, I wouldn’t worry about it. Spring ball isn’t for a few months, so the energy demand isn’t really high yet. I would just keep doing what you’re doing now as long as he’s gaining good weight and making progress in the gym. Once spring ball starts, then you can reassess as he will have a higher energy demand. Foot ball season is 8 or so months away, so no need to rush it right now.

One thing to be aware of. As he gains weight, watch his speed on the field. You want to make sure that the weight gain doesn’t affect his ability to run, change direction or affect his stamina. You don’t want him to gain so much weight that he can’t be an effective runner as an H back. What is his current height and weight?
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pilsnerpusher
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Caloric needs are actually pretty high right now.. they're on block schedule so he's getting either 75 minutes in the weightroom or outside doing plyo/agility/speed work everyday. Then he has soccer practice after school. He was eating 3000-3500 calories a day and not gaining weight so I upped it 1000 calories and now he is seeing progress. Told him we need to make sure we're adding quality weight, not fat. The main issue we're having is that its tough to get to 4500 calories daily.

He's 5-10 and wants to be 170 by spring ball and 180+ by August. 180-190 has been typical for the H backs in the past. They do speed agility tests fairly regularly so if the weight gain is affecting it we will know.





TigerFanatic99
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GOMAD with whole milk. It's a great ratio of p/f/c. Fill 'em up!
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DeafJam73
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Playing a second sport def increases the energy demand. If you can, try to get in as many calories by whole foods as possible, and fill in with supps as needed. Optimum Nutrition also makes a mass gainer. Go look at the ingredients and see if that’s something you would want to use.


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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Muscle milk was always our go-to for gaining weight in high school.


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LSUfan20005
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My son wants to put on 25 to 30 pounds


That’s a lofty goal. Process will be miserable.


DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Process will be miserable.


I seem to remember that target body fat % for a running back was 10-12%. Whatever the target BF range is for a given position is the goal IMO. Let the weight just be whatever it is. Targeting a weight never worked worth a damn for me.


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lsu777
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honestly, 2 lbs of beef a day and a dozen eggs, minimum.

if you just need calories, add peanut butter to whey.

other then that, just keep on keeping on.

usually mass gainers are full of fillers and sugar.

if you need help overall, easist thing to do is add a protein shake to each meal. as you stall, add a tsp of EVOO or PB. EVOO will make it easier to get down. as you stall add a little more evoo, but be careful, those shits come hard and fast if you do too much at one time.

if he is in true off season mode and lifting with school, have him add in chins at home in. have him do it before school (2 sets), when he gets home(2 sets), after dinner(2 sets), before bed (2 sets)

all sets are done to non failure and should be around 50% of his max chin number. so if he can do 12, start with 6 each set. make sure they are deadhang and done correctly.

try and just get in a total number for the day and slowly raise that number over time.

example with the 12 max chins. all 8 sets would get him a total of 48 for the day. keep that for 2 weeks. week 3, go to 52, week 4...56, week 5...60.

so on and so fourth. Will add a lot of size to his upper back and his arms. its not taxing and can be done 6 days a week.

also make sure he is getting atleast 8 hours of sleep a night. if he can get more...so be it. get him some melotonin if he needs help getting to bed early. teach him good sleep hygiene.


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pilsnerpusher
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I agree it will be a stretch for him, but its his goal and he does have one thing going for him. He's in that stage of puberty where growth (height) is winding down and muscle growth is really ramping up. His maxes have taken pretty good jumps the last 2 months.

I think we're just going to keep doing what we're doing from a nutrition standpoint with the exception of improving the quality of carbs he's taking in.

Thanks for all of the input from the board!


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