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re: Just say no! to sugar - the accountability thread

Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9092 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:29 am to
Peter Attia just had on Rick Johnson. Podcast #87 about fructose. It’s a deep dive, but around the 33 minute mark it gets interesting. They also talk about cancel around one hr and five minutes in.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 5:53 am to
Yesterday was tough. Showed up to work and there were two Randazzo king cakes in the office. Everyone knows I’m from New Orleans, so multiple people tried pushing slices on me.

I know king cake gets some hate on TD, but I love them. One of my favorite foods.

But I persevered. Had zero.

Five days straight no sweets.
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8985 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:49 am to
King Cakes are tough for me too. Praline Filled from Haydel's is my kryptonite. It's tough to pass but the momentary dopamine hit isn't worth it anymore.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6875 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:59 am to
Glad to see this thread. I eat pretty well during the day, but the after dinner pantry raid kills me. Sweets/pastries are my kryptonite.

I lost around 50 lbs about 5 years ago just by eating less. I have gained about 10 lbs back, and have had trouble recently giving in to cravings. We don't keep many sweets in the house, but I have grade school kids and of course they have snacks in the pantry.

Started working out again this week, I'm on day 4 as well of no sweets. I usually cook 3-4 nights a week, nothing fancy, but at least I'm in control of it. The weekends and non-routine days are hard to control.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12844 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 1:36 am to
Had a rough day today. As a diabetic (trying to actually prevent it worsening), I don’t get much leeway.

Today I ate two pieces on chocolate cake and it made my body insanely freak out. For 20 minutes I was back being a committed fatty. Then I felt motion sickness. Then light headed. Then a crash.

I’ve been without sugar for so long ( since November 22nd), it was a terrible feeling.

I went to the gym tonight and went extra hard even though I was dog tired. Instead of beating myself up for 3 days doing nothing, I’m going to power through the weakness. Tomorrow a new day.

For me, there was some victory in a bit of defeat.

Press on gentlemen.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:13 am to
Glad you took it out on the gym.

Just remember it can take a few days for the bad effects to go away. Inflammation, cravings will probably be bad today.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:07 am to
quote:

I would just try to cut out all sugar as there's no real difference.


This is absolutely not true.

There’s a massive difference between the way your body processes the sugar from a slice of king cake vs the sugar from a banana or an orange. If you’re eating natural occurring foods with sugar and fiber, the impact on your blood sugar levels is dramatically reduced.
Posted by TigerEyes1970
Member since Dec 2013
913 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:30 am to
quote:

Day One - no sugar

Good for you, I decided to kick sugar recently too, saw a video of a Mayo Clinic physician warning people (during his speech), of how sugar consumption is linked directly to causing cancer. It's not as tough (cutting out sugar) as I thought it world be, because eating fats completely destroys my sugar cravings. IMO, people who naturally gravitate toward sugar foods should try keto.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

This is absolutely not true.
It's true.

quote:

There’s a massive difference between the way your body processes the sugar from a slice of king cake vs the sugar from a banana or an orange. If you’re eating natural occurring foods with sugar and fiber, the impact on your blood sugar levels is dramatically reduced.
Yeah, so just net the number. If you eat 25 net carbs from a slice of king cake, that is the same as 25 net carbs from a banana or an orange. The point is that sugar is sugar and it's all bad for you.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10099 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:56 pm to
Lots of stress at work leads to bad eating typically for me. My numbers were the best they have been in years 4 months ago, but sucked last month. It’s the sugar, for me even sugar free just triggers more carb cravings.. my A1C went up a whole point.!
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:09 am to
Passed one more test last night. I’m usually pretty drained after music gigs, and I almost always have a decent sized snack when I get home.

I felt the urge to eat something sweet but fought through it.

One full week down with no sweets. Things I’ve noticed:

- My body is showing noticeable changes in physique. Nothing worth posting, but the bloating is completely gone. Most likely water weight from reducing carb intake

- I’ve slept like shite almost all week. Probably averaging 5 hours a night. I think this is more all-around stress induced though

- Other foods are tasting sweeter. Roasted a butternut squash in butter and rosemary a few nights ago, and it tasted like candy. It was so sweet I almost stopped eating it because I was scared it was going to trigger the “I’m eating a dessert” brain chemicals and send me into a binge.

- I’ve become more focused on reducing all refined carbs than originally planned. Original goal was to cut sweets...desserts and sugary snacks only. But I noticed on MyFitnessPal that I was still consuming 30+ grams of sugar a day. Past few days I got that number down to around 15 grams. I might try to get it closer to zero this upcoming week. Only allow carbs to come from non-sweet sources (cut fruit, crackers with added sugar, etc).

- No superpowers yet, but I think the sleeping issues are keeping me from feeling as good as I should. I have noticed that as the inflammation has gone down, I feel more flexible and lithe.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 7:10 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:09 pm to
Almost 11 days of no added sugars. I’m realizing I’m reliant on other carbs and struggle to keep my overall carb intake below 185 grams a day. Vegetables have more carbs than I realize (37 grams in a cup of oven roasted sweet potatoes and 25 in a banana).

I really want to limit myself to 100 carbs a day. Going to take some adjustments to my meal planning and grocery list though.

Question: Is this setting myself up to feeling lethargic all the time? 100 grams is no where near full ketosis but it’s limiting myself in terms of a IIFYM calculated plan.

On another note, my family and I all have a bad viral infection. Tonight I picked up pho and bun cha for us to gorge. Hit me that it all probably had sugar added, so tonight kills the streak.

Still no sweets though, so I’m 11 days strong with cutting desserts out of my life.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Just say no! to sugar


My biggest issue...fricking sweet tea.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 1/15/20 at 2:38 pm to
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struggle to keep my overall carb intake below 185 grams a day.
Good lord!

quote:

25 in a banana)
It would really do some of you guys well to realize that a banana is just a piece of candy. You should not be eating them (unless you absolutely love them).

quote:

Is this setting myself up to feeling lethargic all the time?
Nah. Eat plenty of protein and fat and you will feel great.

quote:

Tonight I picked up pho and bun cha for us to gorge. Hit me that it all probably had sugar added, so tonight kills the streak.
Chinese/Asian food is annoying because they use low quality vegetable/nut/seed oils and put way too much sugar in the sauces. You can cut out the rice and noodles very easily, but what remains still is unnecessarily carb laden.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:40 pm to
How’s everyone doing? Still on track?

I’m learning a lot about my body and it’s not easy. I am officially over two weeks without added sugar. Averaged 20g of sugar from vegetables and fruits per day for the past five days.

Some new knowledge:

- I’m no longer dependent on sugar. It’s official. I don’t even think about it. I don’t crave it. It’s not an option for me. I’ve shifted my mental energy from “don’t eat sugar” to “what can I put into my body that is the best fuel for my fitness and physique goals?”

- It’s all about momentum. The first few days were tough but getting on a roll made this process a lot easier. I no longer believe sugar is as addictive as I thought. I had it close to cigarettes, alcohol, and drugs - but there have been little to no physiological withdrawals. Not real ones that matter at least. Psychological? Some but those were remedied after a week of saying no.

- My macros are now complicated. A few days ago I tried to go down to 100g of carbs. I ended up with a macro split of - 150g of protein; 100g of carbs; 140g of fat.

My sleeping habits got worse. Almost truly debilitating bad. I could fall asleep no problem but two to three hours later I would wake up and be unable to fall back asleep. I went three days on a total of 10 hours of sleep. Miserable barely describes how I felt.

I did a lot of research and found that high fat intake can trigger reflux. I’ve struggled with silent reflux in the past and know the symptoms well. The 150/100/140 macro plan wasn’t going to work because the high fat was causing my body issues.

It’s taking time to figure out, but I’m already nixing the 100g of carbs idea. I read through Tom Venuto’s book and read a number of bodybuilding sites and have decided to try a 150/170/90 macro split for the next week. See if I can sleep better and how I feel.

I thought kicking sugar would be hard. It wasn’t. But now this is about finding the right diet for me. That seems to be hard.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27596 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

I am low carb. Low sugar. I have diabetes. I got my sugar under control in a week. Consistent between 80-90.

This is day 45 of my life changing diagnosis and lifestyle change.


It absolutely can be done just by decision, without any doubts at all. In September of last year my HgbA1C hit 6.5 on one test and my doc gave me three months for a retest. I changed the diet entirely and began exercising as much as possible. By the three month retest it was 5.6, and on the three month second retest it was 5.4.

People allow themselves to see themselves as weak. All this crap about "will power" is total garbage. You decide what you are going to do and then you damn well do it, every day.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:15 pm
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101665 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:16 pm to
In - I'm Keto AF and sugar is our enemy
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:02 am to
Been no sugar all week (except for natural in fruit). Day 4 and feeling good but the cravings after a meal are killing me. Almost broke yesterday but had a quest bar instead of that king cake that was sitting on the kitchen counter. Trying to get through the weekend but I have some events that I'm attending that are going to make it challenging.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20562 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:58 pm to
Well...I’ve posted the good.

Time to post the bad.

After 21 days of zero sugar, I had two graham crackers and 1/2 cup of vanilla ice cream tonight. That’s after a cheat meal where I went to a restaurant and just ordered what I wanted. Catfish plate with fries, Mac and cheese, and hush puppies.

Total calories for the day added up to ~3200.

I’m not feeling bad about it though. Not proud of the streak ending, but...it was a cheat day. We’ll see how I do tomorrow. I feel good about going another 21 days without it.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12844 posts
Posted on 1/26/20 at 8:54 pm to
Here to confess. I went off the wagon the past 2 weeks. I still went to the gym but I fell into the tank with King Cake. Chocolate Cake. Sausage. Homemade Cheeseburgers. Roadhouse Chili (pretty much what I make with pulled chicken and turkey).

It been no holds barred over here.

Everything came back good at Dr. My A1C was 6.1, which is down from 8.9 on November 22nd. It still high because it’s a three month average and I only been on this lifestyle for 2 months.

But I’m struggling.

I’m fighting to stay in the game but I’ve been real down and depressed with the step back this past week. I just feel I should be doing better and everyone is saying the process is amazing. I’m just think I’ve hit a depression.

I’m going to try and refocus and start strong again tomorrow morning.

I think we all go through some struggles at times. Keep your head up every one
This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 9:15 pm
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