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Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by rebel cat
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:55 pm
My doctor said to get the vaccine from Walgreens or CVS. You can sign up on their website. Both have it have it cold. He said we need 70% population to beat it. I’ll be shocked if it reaches 60%. There will be badasses and super far left will not take it.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 2:08 pm to
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There will be badasses and super far left will not take it along with some posters here


Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12909 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 2:39 pm to
Yeah I'm not taking it if I can help it. Im sure they will force me by finding a way to get my employer to require it or preventing air travel without it
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
1565 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 3:18 pm to
What's your reason for not taking it? For your safety and the people your around daily.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12909 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 3:27 pm to
Don't trust it, don't need it, and don't care enough about other people to risk it.

ETA: I'm in my 20s and healthy. I have a .0001% chance of dying or having long term negative effects from the virus. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to believe that there's a greater than .0001% chance that someone's either up to no good with the vaccine or that someone didn't do their job correctly when making it.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
1565 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 3:39 pm to
I guess it's ok to skip if you live in a tiny town.
Posted by DixonCider
H-Town
Member since Nov 2015
398 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 3:49 pm to
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What's your reason for not taking it?


Watch the news on an average night, and there's countless commercials for class action suits of otherwise healthy people who got fricked sideways from some medication with unknown complications.

These medications got past standard FDA approval processes. Not the emergency use process.

If you're young and in good health to begin with, then you're like me. Taking your chances getting the virus honestly as opposed to voluntarily getting something with unknown side effects.

And no, I don't care about others enough to get it for them. Every man for himself.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 3:59 pm to
I'd get a new internal med doc. Mine said the exact opposite of that. In fact, he said that pretreating should be the goal: exercise, diet, outdoor activity, and proven prophylactics against corona viruses (Vitamin D, Vitamin C, Zinc, etc).

Why would anyone take a vaccine for a disease when they have a 99.99% survival rate? It's insanity.
Posted by rebel cat
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 5:19 pm to
does your doctor also oppose the flu shot? because I doubt it

how have so many otherwise reasonable people lost all of their reason when it comes to this vaccine?

because that’s what insane to me
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12909 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 7:37 pm to
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how have so many otherwise reasonable people lost all of their reason when it comes to this vaccine?


Because so many involved in government have lost their reason when it comes to virus control. It leaves us suspicious.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35910 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:29 pm to
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does your doctor also oppose the flu shot?


I'm not sure that's a fair comparison though. One is established in use for decades using vaccine technology that has been in use for decades, the other has been rushed through development and testing, and uses a brand new vaccine technology.

I'm not providing my opinion or if I will get it one way or the other, but there are plenty of reasons for people to be suspect that have nothing to do with government trust.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86164 posts
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:08 pm to
I wasn’t comparing the vaccine to the flu shot.

I was comparing the logic behind why someone would get the COVID vaccine to the flu shot.

Also to reiterate, the COVID vaccine was not rushed through development. It was developed faster due to allocation of resources and funding.

Also the technology is not new, but has been quite extensively researched for several decades.

We just haven’t had the funding or virus to apply it yet. We almost had one for SARS, but not enough people ever got SARS to even finish trials.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20879 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 3:42 am to
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What's your reason for not taking it? For your safety and the people your around daily.


I’ll probably end up getting it but only because my mother has an autoimmune disease and isn’t allowed to get the vaccine.

If not for her, there’s no way I’d get a vaccine for a virus that causes cold symptoms. I’m 36 and healthy with no preexisting conditions. The virus has a very, very low chance of causing me physical harm.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11693 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 5:00 am to
I’ll let everyone go first for a year and see if it’s harmful
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2871 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 5:54 am to
Not opposed to getting the vaccine per se, but I’ve already had the virus and am not in a risk category. It was hardly a cold when I had it. I’d rather run the risk of catching it again with the minimal symptoms I previously had and let everyone else guinea pig it for me over the next year.

I get that you’re saying it’s safe and I’m sure it is, but I don’t think you can say it wasn’t rushed in good faith. The driving government policy is literally called “Operation Warp Speed.” While I’m sure science has advanced enough to make it safe, I’m healthy enough to let that play out for a bit so I know that it is 100% safe.

Only caveat to the above is if the airlines start requiring it. I’m not missing anymore vacations even if I have to grow a third arm.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86164 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:41 am to
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I get that you’re saying it’s safe and I’m sure it is, but I don’t think you can say it wasn’t rushed in good faith. The driving government policy is literally called “Operation Warp Speed.”


There are 2 reason why medications/vaccines typically take so long for FDA approval:

1) government inefficiency and bloat
2) funding

Both of those were taken care of with this vaccine. The government provided most of the funding for the trials and removed a lot of the bullshite government shite that they normally do because they are the government. I work with the government everyday. I know how quickly and efficient they can move when they actually want to. And I know how slow they can be when its something that they deem of little importance.

The vaccines still all went through the exact trials of every other vaccine. There just wasn't months or a year between trials due to companies trying to raise funds.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:38 am to
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does your doctor also oppose the flu shot? because I doubt it



We discussed this as well. He only recommends the flu vaccine to those in high risk groups (mainly the elderly).

His biggest problem was that the medical community is wasting all this time, effort, and energy treating the disease once you've gotten it. When they should be focusing on known preventatives and mitigation factors.

If I'm ever in a high risk group for either the flu or the corona virus, I'll seriously consider the vaccines.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2871 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:38 am to
Again, I don’t think you’re wrong. It’s just that the situation presents a conflict of interest to me. The government has been dangling a big block of cheese in front of big pharma that goes to the first to get a vaccine. This is the same big pharma sector that pushed opioids on the general public to the public’s detriment in the interest of money. Now, we’re saying “here’s a big pile of cash to whoever can do this first.”

As I type this, I realize my skepticism primarily from my distrust of big pharma more so than my distrust of government (although I can’t deny a good amount of that as well). I’m not downing on anyone that decides to get it and don’t think anyone who does so is stupid. As I said, it’s probably safe. However, I’m in a position from a health standpoint to just let this one play itself out.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44411 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:45 am to
X2. Perfectly articulated my sentiments.
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