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Insomnia-Waking up very early.

Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:15 am
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:15 am

Anyone deal with insomnia? For the most part I can drift off at 10-11 PM, only to wake up around 3-5am, fully alert, adrenaline surging and sometimes heart rate elevated.

In general can get 5-7 hours of sleep, however the last half is fragmented. Started taking magnesium glycinate and a 50mg dose of trazodone, however I’m still waking up often after 2-3 AM.

Did a sleep study last year, diagnosed with mild apnea. Really having a hard time with wearing the mask and anxiety. What I do notice as far as a correlation is zepbound. I started a couple months ago and recently went up in dosage.

I’m thinking it’s possible my blood glucose is dropping too low in the early morning, hence the waking up alert and adrenaline surges. Also, working out a lot, so in a caloric deficit a lot of the times.

I also recently did blood work for a physical and my blood glucose was very low-60’s. I’m not diabetic but I’m going to start spot checking and ask my doc if I need a continuous glucose monitoring to see if I’m dropping too low at night.

Any help or thoughts would be welcome. I can get by just fine on 6-7 hours sleep. 4-5 hours is rough the next day
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95632 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:17 am to
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Anyone deal with insomnia? For the most part I can drift off at 10-11 PM, only to wake up around 3-5am, fully alert, adrenaline surging and sometimes heart rate elevated.

In general can get 5-7 hours of sleep, however the last half is fragmented. Started taking magnesium glycinate and a 50mg dose of trazodone, however I’m still waking up often after 2-3 AM.



Sounds like me. A melatonin/mag compound does not help in the wee hours. I end up napping an hour or so in the evening (a lot of days). I've had all sorts of insomnia - can't get to sleep, wake up early, both, but what you're describing is the most difficult to take. Fall asleep reasonably quickly and then wake up (for me it is more like 4 to 6, so you're slightly luckier in that regard). I suppose it is our lot in life.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
108322 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 1:07 pm to
How many drinkypoos you having on average?
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
1178 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 1:09 pm to
We are the same, it's really annoying. The more I "fight" it the worse it gets. I try to just stay in bed and focus on calming myself, sometimes that works and I'll drift back to sleep for another hour or so before I have to get moving.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63642 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 1:16 pm to
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How many drinkypoos you having on average?


A question that shouldn’t be ignored.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
2136 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 1:23 pm to
Very little. I may have 1/2 drinks every couple weeks
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
5002 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

I can drift off at 10-11 PM, only to wake up around 3-5am


quote:

I can get by just fine on 6-7 hours sleep


In my case you can just about set your watch by the fact that I'll wake up within a minute or two of 3 am regardless of when I go to sleep.

I've been that way my whole life and now at 62 after trying melatonin, magnesium, sleep studies, avoiding screen time in the evening, alcohol avoidance, etc the only thing that really works for me is CBD gummies with indica.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69172 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:38 pm to
Try to get sunlight first thing when you wake up. That should help regulate your sleep.

I'm assuming you're exercising during the day? Your body will need the sleep in order to recover.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16401 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 3:51 pm to
I’ve had similar issues but tried something that worked.

Some people find themselves waking @3 am because blood sugar drops and their body jacks up some cortisol to make up for it which is why you wake and feel amped up.

Solution-
Before bed, have some peanut butter or other food to keep your blood sugar from dropping and causing you to wake up.


Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
2136 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 6:04 pm to
That’s my theory what’s causing these early morning wake ups. I’ll try this the next few nights
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:05 pm to
Probably more pharmaceuticals. Zepbound and trazodone haven’t made you enough of a zombie
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14664 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 10:19 am to
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Mingo Was His NameO
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32049 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 8:12 pm to
You are probably having a cortisol spike around 3 or 4. Try eating a complex carb about two hours before going to sleep. That should slow down the cortisol spike until later in the morning.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20885 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:00 pm to
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I can drift off at 10-11 PM


What are you eating for dinner? What time are you eating?

I’ve found that if I eat a healthy dinner at 5:30ish, I can sleep through the night if I’m falling asleep at 11.

Late night meals, especially rich ones, have me popping awake around 3:30.

This is why so many old people would eat dinner at Piccadilly at 4pm.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 10/26/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Any help or thoughts would be welcome.
Have you tried mouth taping? Might clear up that apnea.
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