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re: How did we get duped into believing that an early breakfast

Posted on 12/6/20 at 6:09 pm to
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/6/20 at 6:09 pm to
I wake up really hungry most days. Breakfast is usually my largest meal of the day.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24740 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 5:01 pm to
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That said, I love breakfast food and want to move my window a little earlier and eating breakfast food mid am. I know that's cultural, and I do enjoy breakfast for dinner, but I just prefer breakfast in am.


100%
I’ll often enjoy breakfast food on Saturday mornings around 10:30 now and skip lunch.
I do miss a meal before church, but a 12:30 brunch works too, and that’s a good fast.

And yes, we’ll eat breakfast for supper maybe 1-2 times a month too. It’s the best food
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24740 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 5:04 pm to
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I eat bacon, eggs, and coffee and that holds me for a good 4-5 hours. Then I start snacks and lunch until around 2 hours before bed. I usually am only fasting for 8-9 hours.
For most people this schedule results in fatassery.

You are active, have great genetics, young, or all three.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10044 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 5:38 pm to
It just requires monitoring my calories.

I'm young, I have good genetics in some areas, and I'm active.

It aint easy, but it is simple. You eat more than you expend, you gain weight.

EDIT - Just to clarify, I'm 5'7" around 184, waist is at a 34 currently. I was 240 pounds at the beginning of this year with a 40 inch waist. And when I was that large I rarely snacked or ate breakfast. I just gorged at meal times. The only difference now is I weigh what I eat. I don't think the timing of the meals has much to do with it.
This post was edited on 12/7/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:22 am to
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Bottom line is breakfast is important for athletes, not because it's special but because most its a chance to ingest calories and athletes need lots of calories.


While close, you aren’t making the same argument as the op. You are stating breakfast is important because athletes need additional calories but op is wondering why breakfast is the MOST important.

There are what seems two separate arguments in this thread.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 8:23 am
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 12/8/20 at 8:44 am to
Breakfast is nectar of the gods
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24740 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:18 am to
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EDIT - Just to clarify, I'm 5'7" around 184, waist is at a 34 currently. I was 240 pounds at the beginning of this year with a 40 inch waist. And when I was that large I rarely snacked or ate breakfast. I just gorged at meal times. The only difference now is I weigh what I eat. I don't think the timing of the meals has much to do with it.

I'd venture to say that you didn't lose 56 lbs by weighing your food.
I'm assuming you went from no activity to a good bit of consistent exercise.

You'd shed 20 more if you did a strict 18/6 daily fast.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10044 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:24 am to
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I'd venture to say that you didn't lose 56 lbs by weighing your food.
I'm assuming you went from no activity to a good bit of consistent exercise.

You'd shed 20 more if you did a strict 18/6 daily fast.


I'd venture to say you're talking about something of which you have very little information. Before weighing my food, when I was 240 pounds, I was riding my bike almost daily, often over 100 miles a week.

I've yo-yo'd several times since high school. The only consistent thing about me losing weight, EVER, has been weighing my food.

And I will shed 20 more, by way of strict calorie monitoring and regular exercise.

If fasting works for you, great. But that doesn't work for me. I would 100% end up overeating in those 6 hours if I fasted for 18 hours.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 11:25 am
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 1:11 pm to
Try latin breakfast. Eggs, Bean, cheese, and coffee . Rice
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 5:54 pm to
I too struggle with fasting. I will overeat once I can eat again.

Fasting works wonders for some people, and others it doesn't. It's all about what you can adhere to.

I have gotten to a point where I can maintain weight without tracking but Iose weight best by tracking macros, eating a high protein diet, walking 10k steps/day, and doing my CrossFit classes 4x a week.
Posted by Utah Tiger
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
1151 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 6:16 pm to
Timing is everything when it comes to diet and health. Your liver is on a circadian code and releases an enzyme once you have had your 1st calorie of the day. It continues to work on demand as you eat during the day for 12 hours. After that whatever calories you eat or drink are in your body without the enzyme and it wrecks havoc on your metabolism. Longer glucose spikes, slower digestion etc. causing inflammation hurting your microbiome and damaging your body. Once you have had your last calorie you can eat again in 12 hours. Don't eat 3 hours before bedtime or it will interfere with your sleep also. The longer you go beyond 12 hours the greater your autophagy occurs which activates your body to clean up itself and recycle, reuse or create waste products so that your biological processes operate at maximal efficiency. The read this from is called "The Circadian Code" by Dr. Sancha Panda.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
48576 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:02 pm to
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Not that I've verified any of this but I've read that it was possibly the grain? lobby that paid a Harvard professor to who then falsified a research paper which ended up being the basis for the food pyramid.

I may have made that all up.


The TV show Adam Ruins Everything did an episode where he talked about low fat (high sugar) diets vs fatty diets and the battle over which caused you to be fat and increase heart disease in the 1960s & 70s.


LINK
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 4:19 pm
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