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re: ECA, personal experience and advice
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:26 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:26 pm to ClientNumber9
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Did you take the ECA stack first thing in the morning? If so, did you put in food with it? I usually don't eat immediately upon waking up and didn't know how this would make me feel on an empty stomach. Did you have any extra nausea when doing so?
I usually took dose 1 on an empty stomach and ate food mayne 30-45 min later. I never noticed any nausea whatsoever.
It's graphic, but the only non-stimulant side effect for me was that I'd fire out my morning deuce like clockwork within 10 minutes of the morning dose. Caffeine stimulates bowel movements, and ephedra amplified it.
Every morning, I'd wake up, pop a dose, spend 5 minutes puttering around, lay the wood to my plumbing, then start getting ready for the day.
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:27 pm to ClientNumber9
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Did you take the ECA stack first thing in the morning? If so, did you put in food with it? I usually don't eat immediately upon waking up and didn't know how this would make me feel on an empty stomach. Did you have any extra nausea when doing so?
I use it while doing 16:8 and I don't get nauseous, but I sometimes get the jitters. Not bad though, just noticable when I up the dose or am just starting.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:49 pm to Rep520
Haha, thanks. I appreciate the input and the candor, lol. 
Posted on 5/13/20 at 12:51 pm to lsu777
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I use it while doing 16:8 and I don't get nauseous, but I sometimes get the jitters. Not bad though, just noticable when I up the dose or am just starting.
Thank you, it sounds like I should be good. I don't have an inherently weak tummy, though some supplements on a completely empty stomach cause some discomfort.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:04 pm to Rep520
I’ve been taking EC stack for off and on but the weird thing right now is that it makes me so tired. I usually take a nap.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 10:17 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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weird thing right now is that it makes me so tired. I usually take a nap.
Adrenal fatigue, lay off the stimulants, all of them, back off the volume lifting wise or better yet, delosd and sleep more, 8+ hours every night for a week.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 7:20 am to Rep520
I’ve been taking it on and off since I was 16. Never had any issues
Posted on 5/14/20 at 9:59 am to lsu777
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Adrenal fatigue, lay off the stimulants, all of them, back off the volume lifting wise or better yet, delosd and sleep more, 8+ hours every night for a week.
I hadn't had the stack in 3 weeks, preworkout only about once a week, no other stimulants during the day, and other caffeine related products get me going. I get more than 8 hours of sleep.
And I'm super shocked at you, I looked it up and there apparently no scientific evidence adrenal fatigue exists.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:23 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
No it's not proven but many experience it. I have myself, it's why I believe in it. And maybe it's not a true adrenal fatigue but whatever it is, it's usually cured by reducing stimulants and upping recovery.
I'm shocked you feel that away and after not having stimulants and getting that kind of sleep. Usually for most that remedies the situation.
I'm shocked you feel that away and after not having stimulants and getting that kind of sleep. Usually for most that remedies the situation.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:49 am to lsu777
So just to confirm. To start 1x Bronkaid, 81mg of aspirin, and 200mg of caffeine once daily. After tolerance is established work to 3 doses of the above daily for 5 days a week taking weekends off. Is that correct?
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/14/20 at 11:40 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
I take it 7 days per week when I’m using it. I also don’t use the aspirin but you’ll be fine with it
Posted on 5/14/20 at 11:59 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
For most people that is going to be the safest approach. Some people will tolerate it very well and will be able to ramp up the dosing very quickly. Some people may even be able to take more ephedra or maybe able to double the dose.
Personally I tolerate caffeine very very well, and am quickly able to work up to a double dose first thing in the morning and another double dose around 11:00 or 12:00. I'm still able to sleep very easily that way and it does curb all hunger at that dose for me. I just make sure the only other caffeine I get is maybe a small cup of coffee first thing in the morning before I take anything.
The aspirin is not required but it does help. The aspirin is included to keep Norepdrine levels from dropping i.e it keeps the stimulant effects of the caffeine ephedra stack from decreasing over time. Essentially it makes the stack more effective.
And you are more than welcome to go 7 days a week just be mindful of that and that you may have to come completely off after a while if the dose required for the same effects gets a little out of hand.
What you laid out is essentially the safest approach.
Personally I tolerate caffeine very very well, and am quickly able to work up to a double dose first thing in the morning and another double dose around 11:00 or 12:00. I'm still able to sleep very easily that way and it does curb all hunger at that dose for me. I just make sure the only other caffeine I get is maybe a small cup of coffee first thing in the morning before I take anything.
The aspirin is not required but it does help. The aspirin is included to keep Norepdrine levels from dropping i.e it keeps the stimulant effects of the caffeine ephedra stack from decreasing over time. Essentially it makes the stack more effective.
And you are more than welcome to go 7 days a week just be mindful of that and that you may have to come completely off after a while if the dose required for the same effects gets a little out of hand.
What you laid out is essentially the safest approach.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 12:37 pm to lsu777
Too easy thanks. I may give it a run. April / May is the majority of the birthdays in our household (6 total birthdays) so I’ve been off keto for awhile. I might try and ramp into it with an ECA stack as well.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 12:40 pm to lsu777
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I'm shocked you feel that away and after not having stimulants and getting that kind of sleep. Usually for most that remedies the situation.
I have always been tolerant of stimulants and even taken breaks from them for weeks. I usually need about 200-300mg to feel anything. I've always wondered if it was the other stuff that helped me get the energy other than just caffeine.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 12:51 pm to lsu777
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And you are more than welcome to go 7 days a week just be mindful of that and that you may have to come completely off after a while if the dose required for the same effects gets a little out of hand.
It got out of hand fairly fast when I did 7 days a week. Coming off of that was a bear too.
5 on, 2 off keeps withdrawal from being any worse than maybe a slight Saturday night headache for me.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 1:54 pm to Rep520
Yea when I work up to over a gram a day, the withdrawals suck. I don't get headaches or anything just cranky and tired.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 1:55 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I have always been tolerant of stimulants and even taken breaks from them for weeks. I usually need about 200-300mg to feel anything. I've always wondered if it was the other stuff that helped me get the energy other than just caffeine.
I am kind of like that too. Used to be opposite.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 2:50 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
What is the purpose of the aspirin in this?
I like the idea of a legit / legal fat burner.
I like the idea of a legit / legal fat burner.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:18 pm to Swagga
Prolongs effectiveness of caffeine and ephedra
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