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Arnold: The Education of a Bodybuilder

Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:25 am
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:25 am
Anyone read this? I just started it last night and I'm enjoying it.

Posted by Volt
Midway Island, N Pacific Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:59 am to
Step 1...pop top off of vial of steroid


As a teen, I admired Arnold When he was in his prime, but once I realized that they all use the shite out of steroids and such, meh.


Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24151 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:02 pm to
Yeah, only one of the greatest bodybuilders ever and the amount of time and effort he put into it is just meh
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:06 pm to
not to get off topic, but the Westside Barbell documentary is not Netflix. It's a great watch, and I definitely recommend it to anyone.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:07 pm to
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As a teen, I admired Arnold When he was in his prime, but once I realized that they all use the shite out of steroids and such, meh.



This is short sighted. The drugs help, but to obtain the physique is a brutal undertaking.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:25 pm to
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not to get off topic, but the Westside Barbell documentary is not Netflix. It's a great watch, and I definitely recommend it to anyone.


It's entertaining, but sort of one sided. It's produced by Westside, so not a huge shock it paints Louie and his training methods in as positive a light as possible and skips legit criticisms of them.

It's better entertainment than training advice.
Posted by Volt
Midway Island, N Pacific Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:34 pm to
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the amount of time and effort he put into it


He did put in a lot of time and effort, but what would he have looked like if he did not do any PEDs?

Nowhere near what he did look like. Nowhere near the size. He would have been a nobody.

Does anyone not agree?
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Nobelium
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/9/21 at 8:37 am
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

He did put in a lot of time and effort, but what would he have looked like if he did not do any PEDs? Nowhere near what he did look like. Nowhere near the size. He would have been a nobody. Does anyone not agree?


There is not a single body builder that has obtained elite status without using drugs. To down play what Arnold has accomplished is just silly.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 6:39 pm to
This is such a dumb way to look at it.

I’m dumbfounded by the people who can’t accomplish elite level stuff but critique those that are elite.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

He did put in a lot of time and effort, but what would he have looked like if he did not do any PEDs?

Nowhere near what he did look like. Nowhere near the size. He would have been a nobody.

Does anyone not agree?


Nope...do not agree. Tell me, what naturals would have rivaled him, all things equal? Were there all natural guys he was competing against that would have trumped him had he not used gear? No, there wasn't. Everyone that competed against him juiced as well.

You are correct, he would not have been that big had he not used steroids. But if nobody (including him) used steroids, he still would have been one of the best of the best. You're argument is silly.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:15 pm to
The amount of steroids Arnold used was miniscule in comparison to today. He worked his arse off, didn’t miss meals and never missed training. He lived in the gym. I know guys on steroids who barely lift and eat like crap and guess what? They look like crap. Steroids are by no means magical in the portions Arnold and Franco were taking, they trained HARD and ate clean.

I see him weekly and he he still looks great, especialy for a 72 year old.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58200 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:37 pm to
Back then, steroids were used under a doctors supervision
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:13 am to
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The amount of steroids Arnold used was miniscule in comparison to today.


This is why the sport fell off. They sacrificed aesthetics for mass monsters. Arnold and his generation were attractive. Big chests, big arms, big legs and a SHREDDED mid-section for that sexy V shape. Today, bubble guts and blown out proportions.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:03 am to
Exactly, and they look gross IMO. Just google Craig Golias
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25272 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Nowhere near what he did look like. Nowhere near the size. He would have been a nobody.

Does anyone not agree?


If we are living in a world where everyone was clean who was doing bodybuilding, then he probably would have the exact same fame he has now. He won the competitions because he worked hard, since it was an even playing field in that everyone was using
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Exactly, and they look gross IMO. Just google Craig Golias


Jesus. Why would anyone want to look like this?

Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:54 pm to


Swolelife.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:45 pm to
It’s even worse when you see them have to wear jeans or pants and a button down, they look deformed. They are always in athletic gear.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11158 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 6:31 pm to
Bodybuilding look is terrible. I’d like to compete in Physique sometime next year or the year after though
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