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Apparently my liver is fatty and I need a lifestyle change
Posted on 12/8/21 at 6:53 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 6:53 am
Obviously I am adding and increasing exercise.
I feel like my diet is not bad as I very rarely eat processed foods. I am increasing my water and vegetable intake.
Now I believe one of my biggest issues is most mornings I eat 2 fried eggs. This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
Suggestions?
I feel like my diet is not bad as I very rarely eat processed foods. I am increasing my water and vegetable intake.
Now I believe one of my biggest issues is most mornings I eat 2 fried eggs. This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
Suggestions?
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:30 am to LSU6262
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This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
Sub butter for EVO
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:52 am to LSU6262
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Now I believe one of my biggest issues is most mornings I eat 2 fried eggs. This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
i promise the 2 eggs and a pat of butter is not giving you fatty liver.
you have fatty liver either because you drink too much or because you are fat.
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Suggestions?
yea start lifting weights and walking more. and learn how to eat correctly.
glad you dont eat processed foods but food quality matters a lot less than total caloric and protein intake.
whats your age, height, weight?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:57 am to LSU6262
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Now I believe one of my biggest issues is most mornings I eat 2 fried eggs. This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
Not at all a driver of your issue.
If you tracked your current diet, what’s the carb/protein/fat ratios?
How’s your alcohol consumption?
What’s your estimated body fat%?
From what I know about fatty liver, it’s a complicated thing and it’s not as simple as “don’t eat fat.” There are plenty of theories about how inflammation can drive it as well.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:04 am to LSUfan20005
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From what I know about fatty liver, it’s a complicated thing and it’s not as simple as “don’t eat fat.”
exactly, for most people its because they are overwieght or they drink too much.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:47 am to LSU6262
Fatter liver is primarily caused by:
- Chronic overconsumption of alcohol
- Chronic overconsumption of sugar
- Chronic overconsumption of both
So.. what is it, OP? High sugar diet, too much alcohol for many years, or both? The only person I know with fatty liver is a massive sweets-o-haulic and drinks probably 3-6 bud lights a day.
What it boils down to - fatty liver is a strong indicator of poor habits for many years.
Also.. what is your age?
- Chronic overconsumption of alcohol
- Chronic overconsumption of sugar
- Chronic overconsumption of both
So.. what is it, OP? High sugar diet, too much alcohol for many years, or both? The only person I know with fatty liver is a massive sweets-o-haulic and drinks probably 3-6 bud lights a day.
What it boils down to - fatty liver is a strong indicator of poor habits for many years.
Also.. what is your age?
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:58 am to Hulkklogan
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Chronic overconsumption of sugar
Interesting
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:49 am to LSU6262
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I feel like my diet is not bad as I very rarely eat processed foods.
I don't believe you
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:05 pm to LSU6262
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Now I believe one of my biggest issues is most mornings I eat 2 fried eggs. This morning I realized I use a pretty significant amount of butter. This is going to be hard for me to change as I love butter
This is not your issue at all. Do you consume a lot of fructose?
Eta: if your doctor thinks fatty liver is caused by fat consumption, then please find a new doctor. Esp fat from eggs and butter. Stay away from processed oils--esp "vegetable" and canola.
Nafld is ravaging children now. It's especially bad in a lot of Hispanic communities: genes plus (edited typo) diet equals disaster.
Study link ncbi: LINK
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 7:30 am
Posted on 12/9/21 at 4:42 am to LSU6262
Is your not consuming alcohol on a regular basis your problem is fructose. Fructose causes fat to accumulate in the liver. Drinking fruit juice, sodas, sweet tea, sweetened coffee drink, or any other sweetened beverage is the most likely cause of NAFLD.
I went through this a year and a half ago. I was 6ft 200lbs, and wore 32 waist pants. No one thought I was fat. I drank pomegranate juice every morning and soft drinks and sweet tea during the day. My doctor picked it up on a blood test then confirmed it via ultrasound. My doctor’s advice was a low fat diet. I knew that GP doctors aren’t nutrition experts, so I did my own research.
If you want to reverse it avoid fructose, go low carb. Keto would be really good, but that isn’t easy to maintain for most people. I just cut out sugary drinks completely and avoided pasta, rice, and bread when I had other options. I also walked/jogged an hour each work day weather permitting. I went back to the doctor a year later (20lbs lighter) and my ALT had improved slightly but it was still out of range on the high side. I was frustrated that I didn’t see a bigger improvement so, I starting eating once a day during days I worked so basically a 22-2 schedule and twice a day during off days a 16-8 schedule. Within 6 months my ALT numbers dropped from 62U/L to 37U/L. For me it seemed time restricted eating made the most significant difference, but I’m also aware it just might have took a long time of reduced sugar intake before the positive results showed up. I will say during this time I’ve eaten more fat, especially butter, than I have my entire life and my fatty liver condition has improved. Therefore, I can say with confidence that dietary fat isn’t the culprit for fatty liver.
I went through this a year and a half ago. I was 6ft 200lbs, and wore 32 waist pants. No one thought I was fat. I drank pomegranate juice every morning and soft drinks and sweet tea during the day. My doctor picked it up on a blood test then confirmed it via ultrasound. My doctor’s advice was a low fat diet. I knew that GP doctors aren’t nutrition experts, so I did my own research.
If you want to reverse it avoid fructose, go low carb. Keto would be really good, but that isn’t easy to maintain for most people. I just cut out sugary drinks completely and avoided pasta, rice, and bread when I had other options. I also walked/jogged an hour each work day weather permitting. I went back to the doctor a year later (20lbs lighter) and my ALT had improved slightly but it was still out of range on the high side. I was frustrated that I didn’t see a bigger improvement so, I starting eating once a day during days I worked so basically a 22-2 schedule and twice a day during off days a 16-8 schedule. Within 6 months my ALT numbers dropped from 62U/L to 37U/L. For me it seemed time restricted eating made the most significant difference, but I’m also aware it just might have took a long time of reduced sugar intake before the positive results showed up. I will say during this time I’ve eaten more fat, especially butter, than I have my entire life and my fatty liver condition has improved. Therefore, I can say with confidence that dietary fat isn’t the culprit for fatty liver.
This post was edited on 12/9/21 at 5:17 am
Posted on 12/9/21 at 7:36 am to LSU6262
Try davita.com. Its for kidney health but the recipes may be of benefit.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:37 am to cssamerican
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If you want to reverse it avoid fructose, go low carb. Keto would be really good, but that isn’t easy to maintain for most people. I just cut out sugary drinks completely and avoided pasta, rice, and bread when I had other options. I also walked/jogged an hour each work day weather permitting. I went back to the doctor a year later (20lbs lighter) and my ALT had improved slightly but it was still out of range on the high side. I was frustrated that I didn’t see a bigger improvement so, I starting eating once a day during days I worked so basically a 22-2 schedule and twice a day during off days a 16-8 schedule. Within 6 months my ALT numbers dropped from 62U/L to 37U/L. For me it seemed time restricted eating made the most significant difference, but I’m also aware it just might have took a long time of reduced sugar intake before the positive results showed up. I will say during this time I’ve eaten more fat, especially butter, than I have my entire life and my fatty liver condition has improved. Therefore, I can say with confidence that dietary fat isn’t the culprit for fatty liver.
Thank you. My ALT is 55 and AST is 34. My GP said if it was alcohol related, AST would be higher than the ALT. He just said to diet and exercise and can continue consuming alcohol in moderation. Retest in 2 months. Like you said he isn't a dietitian so he didn't offer any specifics.
I did not mention that I do eat low carb toast with honey every morning with my eggs. I will sub that with something. Also, I will switch back to 100% black coffee. I really only drink sodas, maybe, 1 every 2 weeks, but I will cut it out completely. I plan to avoid or at very least portion control other carbs you mentioned. This along with increased cardio sounds like a good plan. Thank you again
Posted on 12/13/21 at 12:14 pm to cssamerican
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Drinking fruit juice, sodas, sweet tea, sweetened coffee drink, or any other sweetened beverage is the most likely cause of NAFLD.
This is what basically got me. Sweet Tea is/was my vice and I wouldn't think twice about getting one of those sugar coffee from the coffee shop when I needed an evening boost. Quickly realized I get the same boost from basic coffee w/ 1-2 tsp of sugar; just takes a few minutes to kick in.
I was 6'2" 205lbs w a 49 ALT & 28 AST, within 6 months I was able to drop 10 pounds and my #s were 26 ALT & 19 AST. The only real change I made was cutting back on beers & the sugar coffee and increased my cardio a little (reoccurring injuries keep me demotivated, but I do keep going back).
This post was edited on 12/13/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:34 pm to LSU6262
quote:Looks like the brigade pretty much has this covered, so I'll only offer this: drink when you're thirsty. Do not turn water into some kind of measured fetish.
I am increasing my water and vegetable intake.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 1:35 pm to cssamerican
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My doctor’s advice was a low fat diet.
JFC...it's 2021!Posted on 12/13/21 at 7:31 pm to LSU6262
Same here brah. Ive weighed the same since college. Ate whatever i wanted. Once i hit 36 the weight just piled on almost overnight. I gained about 35 lbs. Rarely drink. So my fatty liver is just a result of me being a fat frick. Going to see a nutritionist this week. Already started taking milk thistle and other stuff good for the liver
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:21 pm to LSU6262
The last paragraph is bullshite.
Posted on 12/13/21 at 8:24 pm to LSU6262
Eat grass fed beef liver
Posted on 12/13/21 at 9:55 pm to LSU6262
Im fat af. 5'6 240 . i fear i have fatty liver. i drink like a fish
Posted on 12/13/21 at 11:16 pm to LSU6262
Look into a supplement called TUDCA.
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