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re: Am I doing too much cardio?
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:07 am to LSUTitan99
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:07 am to LSUTitan99
how much time do you spend at the gym on MTW? good grief
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:19 am to LSUTitan99
That much cardio is going to turn you gay.
But seriously, if you follow all this good advice to start progressively training weights, then you have to give up the cardio for the first few months you are doing that or you won’t recover. I know you won’t listen to this advice, but it’s correct.
But seriously, if you follow all this good advice to start progressively training weights, then you have to give up the cardio for the first few months you are doing that or you won’t recover. I know you won’t listen to this advice, but it’s correct.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:38 am to Earnest_P
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But seriously, if you follow all this good advice to start progressively training weights, then you have to give up the cardio for the first few months you are doing that or you won’t recover. I know you won’t listen to this advice, but it’s correct.
He is doing an eliptical, not running marathons daily.
I have never seen anyone in good shape on an eliptical, ever.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 11:21 am to idontyield
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I have never seen anyone in good shape on an eliptical, ever.
Hey hey hey - I do a ton of elliptical when I have to do cardio. Don't hate. These old joints want zero impact.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 2:32 pm to Fe_Mike
Certain ellipticals are useless. Many of the ones I've seen in commercial gyms don't really do much for you. There isn't enough in the resistance settings to get a good workout. We bought a cheap one from Sears when we were in college, and that thing would give you a workout. No fancy screens, it just had a timer/clock on it, and a dial for resistance that was tied to a cable. I'd use it 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes and it was great.
The word cardio is misleading though. I don't want to get into aerobic vs anaerobic and other things, but just doing something simple for a long time isn't great. You need some sort of intervals or variance to exercise. If all you do is a half hour at the same speed all the time, all that will really happen is your body will get really good at doing that thing for that amount of time.
The word cardio is misleading though. I don't want to get into aerobic vs anaerobic and other things, but just doing something simple for a long time isn't great. You need some sort of intervals or variance to exercise. If all you do is a half hour at the same speed all the time, all that will really happen is your body will get really good at doing that thing for that amount of time.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:08 pm to TU Rob
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Certain ellipticals are useless.
I spent years on the elliptical at the gym and never made any progress. Within months of converting that same time spent into running outside, I lost the weight I was trying to lose. Running > elliptical
Posted on 9/15/23 at 3:52 pm to Aubie Spr96
Totally agree. The elliptical felt way easier because it was. It would say I did 900 calories like OP says, but there is no way it's more than half that. I get that it's better for joints to have the lower impact for some folks.
Posted on 9/15/23 at 10:05 pm to Aubie Spr96
You’re not doing the elliptical hard enough man.
Work as hard at the elliptical as you do running and you’ll be fine.
I used the elliptical as my only cardio to drop 20 lbs in 8 weeks for a show.
If you like running that’s fine. Nothing wrong with running. But I promise I can burn as many calories on the Y elliptical as you burn running in the same amount of time. Just gotta put in the work.
Work as hard at the elliptical as you do running and you’ll be fine.
I used the elliptical as my only cardio to drop 20 lbs in 8 weeks for a show.
If you like running that’s fine. Nothing wrong with running. But I promise I can burn as many calories on the Y elliptical as you burn running in the same amount of time. Just gotta put in the work.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 10:58 am to ApexHunterNetcode
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If we really wanted to get spicy throwingh in the data and peer reviewed studies on animal protein and how shifting even just a portion of protein sources to plant based remarkably impacts longevity, cognitive function and body function but that is a hornets nest generally best left unprovoked.
Problem is there isn’t a single true study on that. If you are talking correlation study, fine but if looking for actual causation study, you would be wrong. But believe what you want
And let the skinny fat joggers believe what they want
When they are 65 and can’t get off the toilet or are constantly falling. They will understand
Posted on 9/16/23 at 1:48 pm to lsu777
I agree with everything here including the impact of weight lifting vs steady state cardio. I wasn't promoting all plant based/vegan. The value of including beans, lentils, etc as a component of ones diet is important. Not just for the protein intake but more importantly the additional nutrients. It's a subject that many people take a black and white view vs the reality that balance is critical, similar to cardio vs lifting. I also had a few beverages that evening before posting and didn't give great context... mea culpa
Posted on 9/16/23 at 3:41 pm to lsu777
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Problem is there isn’t a single true study on that. If you are talking correlation study, fine but if looking for actual causation study, you would be wrong. But believe what you want
Seems like they just point to people being really old in Japan and parts of the Mediterranean, basically pulling out a correlation with no control or other input at all. I saw a rat study out of Pennington recently but I'm not sure I take much stock in that.
Posted on 9/16/23 at 5:07 pm to calcotron
Exactly what it is. It’s been shown many on those countries though eat in a slight deficit but who tf cares about that when you can claim it something else…right?

Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:29 am to ApexHunterNetcode
Appreciate everyones input. I do lift weights and will just cut back on the cardio.
I am not a vegan
I am not a vegan
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:30 am to Fe_Mike
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You’re not doing the elliptical hard enough man.
Work as hard at the elliptical as you do running and you’ll be fine.
I used the elliptical as my only cardio to drop 20 lbs in 8 weeks for a show.
If you like running that’s fine. Nothing wrong with running. But I promise I can burn as many calories on the Y elliptical as you burn running in the same amount of time. Just gotta put in the work.
I do have it at it's highest setting
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:43 am to LSUTitan99
My reply was to someone else, not in reference to you. 
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:59 am to Fe_Mike
My bad! I love using my Elliptical at home while watching Forensic Files
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:15 pm to LSUTitan99
How old are you? It sounds like you are lifting weights on too many consecutive days and then making that worse by doing cardio in addition to lifting on three days. You need to decide what you are after and set some goals. If better sleep is important, lifting weights will help w/ that as much if not more than cardio. OMAD??? WTF? Sounds like you are addicted to having a very skinny body for some strange reason.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:03 am to rebelrouser
35. OMAD is incredible and got me in shape from nearly being obese.
I only do cardio on days that I lift weights using upper body. Shoulders, Back/Chest, Arms.
I only do cardio on days that I lift weights using upper body. Shoulders, Back/Chest, Arms.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 11:48 am to LSUTitan99
Im going to jump on this post to ask about right amounts of cardio. I know, "none, lol" but my runs are gorgeous and I live at high elevation. So I figure some is good and I like it.
Right now, Im doing something like this:
2-3 days a week, speed intervals. Got a 1.25 mile one way single track out to this lake. Not super organized yet, just burn as hard as i can until its too much. Catch breath. Repeat.
2 times a week, hills plus sprints. Get at least 1000' elevation gain over a mile. Sprint at the bottom and come back while catching breath. Then back up.
1-2 a week, 3 mile casual jog.
Im bringing more weight training in for the overall picture, high protein diet, yada yada.
The goal is to increase that VO2max and between the weights and sprints, I think Im on the right path.
Right now, Im doing something like this:
2-3 days a week, speed intervals. Got a 1.25 mile one way single track out to this lake. Not super organized yet, just burn as hard as i can until its too much. Catch breath. Repeat.
2 times a week, hills plus sprints. Get at least 1000' elevation gain over a mile. Sprint at the bottom and come back while catching breath. Then back up.
1-2 a week, 3 mile casual jog.
Im bringing more weight training in for the overall picture, high protein diet, yada yada.
The goal is to increase that VO2max and between the weights and sprints, I think Im on the right path.
Posted on 9/19/23 at 11:54 am to Duke
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The goal is to increase that VO2max
if thats your goal then yea you are on right path
when we say right amount of cardio is none we are talking about guys looking for aesthetic changes that are jogging a good bit throughout the week.
i define jogging as anything over a 400m
really for most its anything over 100m and nothing over 50m is really 100% full speed for a non trained individual.
there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing cardio...its just jogging or elipitical is going to hurt your physique goals
i personally like doing strong man conditioning or hitting the heavy bag.
but for physique goals, nothing beats heavy arse lifting, walking with possibly something like a 10-12 min metabolic conditioning exercise at the end.
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