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re: The Bluffs made Me Sad Today
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:06 pm to lsu13lsu
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:06 pm to lsu13lsu
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As it relates to golf, what is BRECs mission?
As an older guy who grew up playing Webb abd to a lesser extent the other BREC courses that’s always been the question.
Webb was their prime course Then it became Dumas. They never charged enough and generally they let their old properties slide.
BREC is deaf when it comes to golf, or at least it used to be.
And golf isn’t the only sport that gets short changed. Baseball and softball diamonds are pitiful. They destroyed public ball diamonds. They are deaf when it comes to baseball/softball also.
They seem to respond to basketball, soccer, dog people, open air parks, nature trails, and etc.
Like I said I’m an older guy, but those are my impressions.
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:48 pm to lsu13lsu
That is what is needed. Courses need to be busy all day and everyday to make sense. If only busy saturday morning a course cannot be successful. Even if taxpayer funded for cheap and accessible golf.
My man, please tell me how a place that is packed wall to wall everyday stays in good condition?
1. That much play is what wears a course out.
2. You’re gonna need a huge fleet of machines and a lot of man power to stay in front of those golfers to set the place up, at least twice a week in growing season (and that’s if the weather cooperates). That alone will put a course under if times get tough.
It’s expensive to have a premier course stay in premier condition. Just expecting things to happen is easy for the public golfer. Because you don’t have to spend your money. The golf course does, and that’s why the recipe only works limited ways.
My man, please tell me how a place that is packed wall to wall everyday stays in good condition?
1. That much play is what wears a course out.
2. You’re gonna need a huge fleet of machines and a lot of man power to stay in front of those golfers to set the place up, at least twice a week in growing season (and that’s if the weather cooperates). That alone will put a course under if times get tough.
It’s expensive to have a premier course stay in premier condition. Just expecting things to happen is easy for the public golfer. Because you don’t have to spend your money. The golf course does, and that’s why the recipe only works limited ways.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:10 pm to BonesMalone
Courses all over the country do more rounds than Baton Rouge courses. Can someone tell us what the optimal rounds are for a course in Baton Rouge? And why only Baton Rouge courses cannot handle more rounds?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:18 pm to lsu13lsu
You’re telling me that courses all around the country are doing 35,000+ rounds per year. And those courses are charging $40-50 per round and are premier 24/7.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:31 pm to BonesMalone
Courses in Baton Rouge are now full many days. That is a great thing. It took courses to closing and Covid but they are actually full now. And they seem to be in the best shape ever in Baton Rouge. That is all I will say.
Money will do that.
Money will do that.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:34 pm to BonesMalone
National average for a course is 30k. Covid may bump 2021 up a bit.
120-150 rounds a day is about the most an average golf course can handle. Most golf courses have between 275-320 playable days a year.
Even a lot of good courses have trouble breaking even. Building a golf course just doesn't make a lot of good business sense.
120-150 rounds a day is about the most an average golf course can handle. Most golf courses have between 275-320 playable days a year.
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I get that, but where’s the replacement for the up and coming neighborhoods in 2021?
Even a lot of good courses have trouble breaking even. Building a golf course just doesn't make a lot of good business sense.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:01 pm to lsu13lsu
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And why only Baton Rouge courses cannot handle more rounds?
Simple, weather
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Weather prevents the rounds no doubt but the courses have shown that more rounds have been good for them. Maybe they are topped out now because they are genuinely more full than ever.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:46 pm to lsu13lsu
We have had a lot of rain. Except for the ice storm winter wasn’t real bad. Spring has been nice and Summer didn’t come early, Mother Nature hadn’t hurt golf all that much eith the exception of LC.
ETA: some of those big rain days closed golf courses allowing them to “rest”.
ETA: some of those big rain days closed golf courses allowing them to “rest”.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:14 pm to doubleb
Here’s how sad the bluffs situation is.
A thread about the bluffs turns into a discussion about fricking BREC.
A thread about the bluffs turns into a discussion about fricking BREC.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:31 pm to CFDoc
I think the general consensus is golf in Louisiana for the average person/ public is sad.
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:42 pm to lsu13lsu
Any truth to the Bluffs closing at the end of the month?
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:51 pm to tiger626
Homeowner I spoke to said they were given to July 15 to buy or it’s closing. Also discussed giving it to the state.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:15 am to CFDoc
what is on the table now is the POA buying the pools, tennis courts, restaurant and nature trail vs closure
Posted on 6/15/21 at 7:45 am to BonesMalone
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My man, please tell me how a place that is packed wall to wall everyday stays in good condition?
1. That much play is what wears a course out.
2. You’re gonna need a huge fleet of machines and a lot of man power to stay in front of those golfers to set the place up, at least twice a week in growing season (and that’s if the weather cooperates). That alone will put a course under if times get tough.
Bayou oaks south course in NOLA is fighting this battle. The place has been packed wall to wall since Covid started. Greens and fairways take a beating everyday. They’re trying to get a handle on it.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:27 pm to Swagga
I think what people in Louisiana miss is that is the problem you want. Most courses battle the problem of too few golfers and they don’t exist any longer or are closing down.
I had guys at the Island tell me they didn’t want more golfers at non prime times bc it would tear up course. It ended up closing down.
I had guys at the Island tell me they didn’t want more golfers at non prime times bc it would tear up course. It ended up closing down.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:31 pm to SFVtiger
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what is on the table now is the POA buying the pools, tennis courts, restaurant and nature trail vs closure
So closing golf and turning it into nature trails?
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:09 pm to lsu13lsu
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So closing golf
Up to the current owner.
In that scenario, the POA would only buy the pool, trails, etc. and the owner could either close the golf course or sell it separately to another buyer. Or give it to the state. Or do whatever else he wants. It would still be his after all.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 5:56 pm to Swagga
Bayou oaks south course in NOLA is fighting this battle. The place has been packed wall to wall since Covid started. Greens and fairways take a beating everyday. They’re trying to get a handle on it.
The flow of golfers has to be managed, especially with public play. And it’s frustrating and way too challenging because of the money. More play and the product suffers. Less play and people get nervous. It’s not a fun business for most places, because there is no plan for what they want to be. They just want to turn a profit and….it….doesn’t…..happen…..in this business.
The mindset of a golfer has changed. They want a deal and a superior course. Those 2 things don’t go together.
The attitude of most golfers has changed. It’s a regular Joe sport now with 6 packs and music blaring from the Bluetooth. The respect to a course just doesn’t come easy. If they didn’t like something, it gets blown up here and now a place is either primo or sucks.
You can’t win. The model doesn’t fit the client.
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:47 pm to BonesMalone
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The respect to a course just doesn’t come easy.
I agree with everything you are saying except for one thing. I see members who don’t respect a course as much or more than public players. They are very much do as I say and not as I do. Also when a course gets in a bind try and do a special member assessment. Lmao. They will run and hide.
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