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re: The Bluffs made Me Sad Today

Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:11 pm to
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Like I just had a son and can’t wait to get a club in his hands but if it’s going to be $200 a round. That just doesn’t make any sense.


Pure hyperbole. No one should even take you seriously.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:13 am to
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Charge $100 for SM, $75 for BC, $45 for Webb, $20-30 for Clark and City Park.


First of all, golf courses charge different rates for different times and days. The above is for peak times. Go at non-peak times and pay less. Many times much less.

Second, if you do not want to pay premium prices, there are lower priced courses like Webb, Clark and CP.

$200 a round? No one cares if you and your kid cannot play BRCC, CCL, UCLUB or SM (at peak time). Those are only places where you should be paying those prices.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:20 am to
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$100 for SM


Santa Maria isn't $100 gold course, ever
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:23 am to
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Santa Maria isn't $100 gold course, ever


The general idea was there is no reason Baton Rouge shouldn't have different levels of public courses and no reason they couldn't build SM into a premium course.

But, we get it, no one would ever drive from Dallas to play SM.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:25 am to
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The general idea was there is no reason Baton Rouge shouldn't have different levels of public courses and no reason they couldn't build SM into a premium course


The reason they can't build it into a premium course is because it's not a premium course. On its best day it's a $60-75 course
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:29 am to
For Public golf in LA, SM is premium now. In one of the hottest real estate zip codes in the entire State. Right now people would pay more to play out there if there were fewer people playing it and it took less time.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 7:31 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:34 am to
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For Public golf in LA, SM is premium now


That's the issue
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Right now people would pay more to play out there if there were fewer people playing it and it took less time.


Based on what? What you think? Even if that were true overcharging to not fill tee times is kind of bullshite, IMO. That's just a difference of opinion, no reason to rehash that arguement.

A better alternative is charge the correct price have 12 minutes between tee times and do something to actually enforce pace of play
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 7:46 am to
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That's the issue


Agree and we want that changed.


Don't you live in Dallas?

No one is saying tomorrow just increase rates overnight for no reason and with no plan.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:05 am to
$100 a round would mean the round would play faster. The course would be in better shape bc less wear and tear.

At the end of the day, it would make the same profit and force the other golfers to the other courses.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:06 am to
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Agree and we want that changed.


Well yeah, in theory, but you can't change the climate, rainfall, or type of grass that grows in the area. The only true promo public course in the state as far as conditions is TPC, and that's because its subsidized by the TOUR.

Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to have really nice public courses due to the conditions, and that's before we even talk about economics
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:07 am to
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$100 a round would mean the round would play faster. The course would be in better shape bc less wear and tear.

At the end of the day, it would make the same profit and force the other golfers to the other courses.


Im not positive their would be a material difference in any of the things you stated by raising the rate to $100
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:20 am to
I will ask again. Do you live in Baton Rouge and play all the courses here regularly? In a previous thread you were saying you live and play in Dallas area.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:20 am to
If they still full the course where 5 hour rounds are typical and they are charging $100, they need to be charging $100. That would mean they are under selling themselves currently.

I checked on Wednesday and the first available tee time at BC today was after 4.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:21 am to
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If they still full the course where 5 hour rounds are typical and they are charging $100, they need to be charging $100. That would mean they are under selling themselves currently.





I laughed so hard when he said nothing would change if they increased rates to $100.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:33 am to
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I will ask again. Do you live in Baton Rouge and play all the courses here regularly? In a previous thread you were saying you live and play in Dallas area.



I did for 6 years
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:37 am to
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If they still full the course where 5 hour rounds are typical and they are charging $100, they need to be charging $100. That would mean they are under selling themselves currently.


If they were a privately owned public course and what you said was true, which in my opinion is debatable (we may disagree on that, which is OK) I'd agree with you. However, the mission of Brec isn't to maximize revenue.

And my original point was even with $100 cost, I don't think condition would change all that much and I don't think rounds would be much faster, you'd just have a harder time getting a 2:30 tee time when the rate went down.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 8:53 am to
I'll agree with you there. BREC is a muni and jot a privately owned public. That is 100% a consideration my $100 thought doesn't take into consideration.

I don't think people would be flocking to SM at 2:30 for a $75 round, imo.

The morning rounds would for sure play faster
Posted by reauxl tigers
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:25 am to
People will just flock to the cheaper tee times and pack the course at 5pm every day
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 9:27 am to
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However, the mission of Brec isn't to maximize revenue.


As it relates to golf, what is BRECs mission? To destroy golf and provide a crap product? I hate to break it to anyone but what BREC has done all these years hasn’t grown the game.

Believe it or not having a premium public course that people can play even if not everyday helps the game. Gives the regular folks something to get excited about. Even people that play CCL as members get excited to go play the Straits.

Managing goat ranches and six hour rounds isn’t growing the game.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 10:03 am to
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People will just flock to the cheaper tee times and pack the course at 5pm every day


That is what is needed. Courses need to be busy all day and everyday to make sense. If only busy saturday morning a course cannot be successful. Even if taxpayer funded for cheap and accessible golf.
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