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So what do you predict is the outcome of The Bluffs at Thompson Creek?

Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:50 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:50 am
It's a challenging and gorgeous Arnold Palmer-designed course that's as close to Baton Rouge as you can get and still offer some elevation changes, but the metro area seems to be growing in the other direction entirely.

Supposedly it needs a couple of million in updates and maintenance.

Posted by FlockUp225
225
Member since May 2015
101 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:28 am to
What I hope - someone with multiple millions buys it and wants to make it great again.

What I think - it will change ownership and be run with a low budget causing it to go more downhill.
Posted by tiger626
NoLa
Member since Dec 2014
490 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:54 pm to
Maybe once property values start to drop back there homeowners will realize they need to participate and a deal can be reached
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2095 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:44 pm to
Homeowners should not be in the golf course business.

Golf course owners should be in the golf course business.

The answer is not, and never will be, the homeowners. It's beyond stupid to think otherwise.

There's really only a small handful of outcomes for that place:

1) Deep pockets get involved and operate what could be a great golf course at a financial loss year after year.

2) Regular pockets get involved, try to get the course on the cheap, and operate a mediocre facility that barely breaks even at best.

3) It goes the way of the do-do.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32551 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:13 pm to
I’ve heard through reliable sources that a bid has been placed by some Louisiana baws with deep pockets.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:24 pm
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
5249 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:55 pm to
Any idea what these deep pockets will do with it?
Posted by Circle G
Member since Dec 2020
392 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

What I hope - someone with multiple millions buys it and wants to make it great again.



Someone needs to relay this idea to James Davison, the owner of Squire Creek. I'm sure he's at least considered it, however.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6218 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:44 pm to
Nah

I would better that course / club hemorrhages money
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6373 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:26 pm to
Needs to be a resort club. Redo the lodges for bigger events. It has everything else.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:04 am to
What caused the initial slide? I'm 33, so I'm a little young o have been paying attention. But I feel like someone told me it was the multi million dollar clubhouse that forced them into bankruptcy the first time. Am I off?


Also, it could go with the sweetens cove model don't buy the lodge, clubhouse, second clubhouse or pool. Just buy the golf course and run it on a good maintenance plan, but not a $120 a round maintenance pan. You don't need it to be country club nice. It just needs to be playable.
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2947 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 6:57 am to
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You don't need it to be country club nice. It just needs to be playable.


Place has to pull people from Baton Rouge to be successful. With Beaver Creek in great shape, The Bluffs will absolutely need to be better than just playable to survive.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:22 am to
BC is a bland layout compared on The Bluffs. If the conditioning is close, people will pass up BC for The Bluffs
Posted by Zanzibaw
BR
Member since Jun 2016
2947 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:44 am to
quote:

If the conditioning is close, people will pass up BC for The Bluffs


To your own point, the conditions will have to be better than just playable to be close to BC
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:55 am to
That's fair
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
935 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:03 am to
Beaver Creek and its tax based funding was the final nail in the coffin for The Bluffs.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7168 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:26 am to
I'm thinking the bluffs might have one more shot at being a club if some rich guy comes in. It will be open for a year or two and then shut down again an be allowed to grow back into a natural area.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Beaver Creek and its tax based funding was the final nail in the coffin for The Bluffs.


BREC and LSU and the fact they didn't have to be ran like a normal business was the nail in the coffin for EBR Region public golf. It made golf uninvestable as a business. Private investors cannot compete with BREC and LSU.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:14 am to
quote:

BC is a bland layout compared on The Bluffs. If the conditioning is close, people will pass up BC for The Bluffs


You are talking to golfers in a market who yearn for LSU to be in good shape. Who argue over who is more primo LSU or Webb. BR golfers are not driving to the Bluffs even if it is better than Beaver and it has been better than Beaver many times over the years and still lost tons of money.

The Bluffs can only make it, if some rich guy like the owner of Squire Creek, makes it their pet project.
Posted by Bawpaw
Member since May 2021
935 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 9:53 am to
That’s not happening there. It’s already been tried by multiple rich guys (Tanner, Dodson, etc). People didn’t ‘get rich’ by making bad investments, and The Bluffs is a bad investment.
I think it’s only saving grace woukd be as a corporate retreat/conference center ran by the parish or a stay/play resort type area. Only way either of those is viable though is to add another amenity to make it more attractive.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2162 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:03 am to
Idk. I spent a few years when I first started playing golf refusing to drive to BC bc if I'm driving that far for golf, I'd just drive to The Bluffs.

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