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Santa Maria vs Copper Mill

Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Tdjacob
Member since Jun 2017
107 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:20 pm
Heard both of these are in rough shape at the moment but was wondering if anyone has played recently
Posted by FishQuiz
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2011
456 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:33 pm to
Copper is closing at the end of the month for a four month renovation. They started spraying out the greens to get ready. It will be in rough shape till they close.

They are just sanding them to try and keep them playable for a few weeks. Round up goes on every Monday till March. Then they get dug up.
Posted by Tdjacob
Member since Jun 2017
107 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 7:51 pm to
Thanks, what about the island?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32562 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:31 pm to
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Round up goes on every Monday till March. Then they get dug up.

Jesus!! That’s some serious overkill
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 8:58 pm to
Did someone pump some money into copper or sonethinf?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32562 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:00 pm to
Obviously, and they have no clue how herbicides works. There’s no reason for multiple applications of RU and a dig up.
Posted by hayden7cub
Mississippi
Member since Mar 2019
302 posts
Posted on 2/10/23 at 10:38 pm to
A friend of mine is in the golf club management business and owns and manages several courses in LA and MS and he just made a presentation to Copper Mill and if he gets them, he'll definitely turn it around.
Posted by FishQuiz
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2011
456 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 4:49 am to
Yes they know exactly how herbicide works but apparently you’re not an expert in golf course agronomy. That material has to be dug up and relocated to other parts of the course for disposal. So you kill everything in the material for less chance of cross contamination on the current greens and where ever the material is going.

A lot of the material dump will be in areas out play so that’s not a huge concern. I’ve sat in multiple meetings as a member of the committee in charge of the project. We are doing exactly what is prescribed as best practices by all experts except you Chappy.

This is a project that everyone is taking very seriously and doing everything to put out a great product in the near future. New club cars with GPS will be ready for the reopening as well.

We will continue to better Copper Mill over time. A practice area and clubhouse renovation are next on the menu but that realistically is at least a year or two away.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32562 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 5:57 am to
I’m glad you’re taking this very seriously Mr Boardmember.

However, there’s no need for 4 applications of RU on dirt you’re going to dig up and deposit elsewhere especially if it’s going to a non playing area. It’s still overkill. Spend your money how you want though.

Good luck. I really do hope the course turns out great. It was always one of my favorite courses with the 6-6-6 layout.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24658 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:25 am to
Re-applying round up is a bit silly.

Hit it hard then run a pre-emergent over it. Maybe hit it one more time a few days before digging up.

Glad CM is making a come back. It’s one of my favorite layouts.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:05 am to
A good coppermill for reasonable twilight rates again would be awesome. I miss the old days there

Fwiw, I rarely used the driving range there
Posted by leblanc272
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
175 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:09 am to
Once again, people that have no idea about course agronomy show up to tell everyone they are wrong. It takes mutliple applications of roundup to kill Bermuda grass. Even though they are digging them up or skimming the top 3-4 inches, you need to make sure the whole plant is dead. One application will not kill everything. if the roots or stolons survive, it will send up shoots and sprout. the last thing you want in a new green is the common bermuda or the old type bermuda on the greens emerging from the roots that may have been left and not killed off. Its coomon practice to make an application, verticut a few days later, aerify, and fertilize them with ammonium sulfate to promote growth of the plants not killed with RU. then make another application, and follow the same process for a total of 3-4 applications. Fusilade II herbicide is commonly mixed with roundup also as it has petty good control on bermuda and other off types that may have emerged and or mutated over time.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11692 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:32 am to
Is the layout staying the same etc?
Thanks for sharing
Posted by FishQuiz
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2011
456 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:43 am to
Yes, greens will be back to original size. It’s amazing how much smaller they have gotten over the years. Taking out trees all around hole twos tee box to try and get that tee box healthy as well.

Tons of small projects going on but no major changes to the layout.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11692 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 7:49 am to
Number 2 always messes with my alignment and number 14 - I just never score well on that hole. I used to hit a draw without thinking about it and I’ve lost the draw.
Posted by Scottforeverlsu
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
979 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:00 am to
It's been years since I've played there, but always very fun course. Love the 6-6-6 lay out
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7252 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Taking out trees all around hole twos tee box to try and get that tee box healthy as well.


Definitely needed!
Posted by NewOrleansBlend
Member since Mar 2008
1014 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 10:49 am to
I’m excited that CM seems committed to getting the course back to where it was originally. The original owner’s son selling the driving range for lots was the major first domino that caused the downturn and a huge mistake. It’s still the best golf property (minus the bluffs) in the region with a layout that makes good use of it.
This post was edited on 2/11/23 at 11:04 am
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54120 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 3:07 pm to
They are renovating Copper? Hell yea
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6393 posts
Posted on 2/11/23 at 6:48 pm to
What about some irrigation on fairways?

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