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Pre-round putting routine for gauging speed?

Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50337 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:50 pm
Even though i play the same course most of the time, the greens can play vastly different speeds between it being wet or 105 and hard as a pool table.

I'll usually just take some putts from various distances but don't have a good set routine for getting my feel for the green speed pre round.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64025 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:54 pm to
Set a tee up as a general aiming point. Start at 3 feet concentrating on speed and not hitting the tee, then work my way back in 6 foot intervals out to about 30 feet. No set amount of putts, but I want to see 3 consecutive good ones.

3 sessions for uphill, down hill, and flat.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4010 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:59 pm to
I read this somewhere and in general, works well.
Find a flat spot on putting green. Take several balls and make a "regular/no thinking stroke." All balls should go about the same distance. Pace off the distance and you will get a decent gauge of speed per step. Most courses are at about 6-7 paces.
Posted by Eye dentist
Member since Oct 2013
552 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:14 pm to
I’m used to the speed of my home course greens, so on a different course, I’ll hit a 20 footer anticipating that speed, and adjust. For example, if the ball ends up 3 feet past, I’ll aim for a spot 3 feet shorter per 20 feet. That works on my home greens also, if they’re playing unusually slow or fast.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:34 pm to
I have a default tempo and so I putt 3 at that tempo then walk it off to get a distance. Do that for the up/down/flat.
Posted by belowmebama
Member since Jul 2008
7303 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:53 pm to
Maybe it’s just me but most of the courses around tend to have practice greens that are sometimes not “in line” with how the course is playing. Putting is usually a strength of mine and pace is not something I usually struggle with but I would certainly like to shave a few strokes so maybe a change to my current course routine is needed. I use the Puttout system at home and have drills for that.

Normal Routine:
3 balls from 5ft (make all)
3 from 10ft (2/3 goal)
3 from 20ft (2/3 goal but restart if any ball is outside “tap in or gimme” range of inside 2ft)
Watch other players putt while on actual course to gauge needed changes, then putt firmer or softer depending on what’s necessary or compensate for that round if I’m leaving putts short or sending them longer than normal.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1365 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:55 pm to
I was listening to one of my favorite club builder podcasts snd he said this during interview with A friend of his who just played at the US open. He said he always walks off his putts to measure the paces. I never once thought of doing that. I did it all by feel. So when i look behind the hole (you can do on the practice green) i pace off how far my call is away from the hole. That way it isn’t a fabrication of some sort of feel in my head. I can relate the feel to a species number or pace. Worked for me.
Posted by SamtheSham
In a greenside bunker
Member since Nov 2018
492 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:01 pm to
Good putting is all speed, because most all putts have some amount of break.

Practice breaking putts to get a real feel for speed. Straight putts can be hit at various speeds for the line; breakers can only be hit at one speed for the chosen line.
Posted by wish i was tebow
The Golf Board
Member since Feb 2009
46121 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:09 pm to
I don’t know that this is what you looking for but years ago my dad and I were at some thing where David toms was answering questions. My dad asked pretty much what you asked. Playing different courses all the time how do you practice for speed etc. he said he spends most of his time practicing 10ft and in. Hits a few long putts to get a feel for speed and that’s it. Said if he’s making most everything inside 10ft he’s going to have a good week. And speed doesn’t need to be perfect if he’s on with short putts. Always thought that was cool thinking

A drill I like is to take whatever distance you want. Let’s just say 15 and 30 feet. Put a ball or mark at 15 and 30 ft. First putt you want to hit just beyond the 15ft mark. And each putt you want to hit a little longer than the previous until 30 feet. See how many putts you can do in that range. Really good for dialing in speed.
Posted by GWfool
Member since Aug 2010
2354 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:26 pm to
Usually the practice green and the actual greens are different grass. Not always the case, but fairly frequent so I would make sure it is the same grass first.

I have played with a group of older guys that would let you roll a ball on the first hole with your hand, but it had to be away from the hole.
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

I have played with a group of older guys that would let you roll a ball on the first hole with your hand, but it had to be away from the hole.


Did y’all take a mulligan per side as well?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75142 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Pre-round putting routine


1. Open first Miller Lite can
2. Walk to the practice area
3. Putt for 10 minutes
4. Walk back to cart
5. Open next Miller Lite can on the way to first tee box.
Posted by MizunoDude
Member since May 2020
725 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:52 pm to
Complicated but routine given to me by a Pro player.

First, if you don’t have a consistent set up this won’t help.

Pace of 4’, 8’ and 12’

Set feet right at shoulder width at the 4’ spot

Take putting stroke that is from inside ankle bone to inside ankle bone. - you should get a perfect 4’ distance on avg to fast greens (10 - 12 stimp)

8’ same set up and putting stroke from big toe to big toe

12’ same set up and stroke from middle of toes to middle of toes

So how does this translate? If these strokes come up short, it is either a slower green speed or into the grain. Adjust you stroke according to uphill/downhill.

If these strokes run past then the opposite applies.

The key is to set up the same and get to know these point to point strokes and the distance they produce.




Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

First, if you don’t have a consistent set up this won’t help.

Pace of 4’, 8’ and 12’

Set feet right at shoulder width at the 4’ spot

Take putting stroke that is from inside ankle bone to inside ankle bone. - you should get a perfect 4’ distance on avg to fast greens (10 - 12 stimp)

8’ same set up and putting stroke from big toe to big toe

12’ same set up and stroke from middle of toes to middle of toes

So how does this translate? If these strokes come up short, it is either a slower green speed or into the grain. Adjust you stroke according to uphill/downhill.

If these strokes run past then the opposite applies.

The key is to set up the same and get to know these point to point strokes and the distance they produce.


I just use an arm lock putter and get buckets
Posted by Front9Bandit
Member since Dec 2013
15432 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:00 pm to
No wonder you didn’t break 80 at Kiva
Posted by doc baklava
Between heaven and hell
Member since Oct 2020
808 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:48 pm to
Consider this method stolen by me. Huge thanks.
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2629 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 5:18 pm to
Mine takes ~10 mins. Find a flat spot. Hit from 3 feet until 3 consecutive go in. Go to 6ft. Get 3 in (doesn’t have to be consecutive as long as they’re pretty close). Go to 9ft same thing. After that, get a few good uphill 10 footers. Then do downhill. Then practice a few long putts from 20+ feet.

If I have another 10-20 minutes, then I go to chipping green and play some 20-50y shots that I play till they’re putted in.

If I have a any more time, go to the range and hit some drivers. I prioritize the stuff closer to the hole though.
Posted by 0jersey
Paradise
Member since Sep 2006
1838 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 5:20 pm to
My routine is to simply ask a couple of people how accurate the practice greens are to the course. This helps a bit.

I have started using the following method and it has worked well for me and doesn’t take much time. I will pick a spot on the green in a relatively flat area about 20’ to 30’ away. I only use two balls. I make my stroke and before I look up I predict whether it will be short, long, or on the money (within a 1’ circle). Then I look up and see. Repeat w second ball.

Depending on time I will do this in four directions and sometimes a little longer distance if I know the greens could result in some really long lag putts.

Finally I will take the balls and practice making putts from 2-3’ away with the only goal being not to watch the putt/keep head down and hear the putt go in or see it out of peripheral vision. I’ll do that for maybe 4-6 putts.

I don’t worry about whether I’m hitting putts on line or not because I’ve already worked on my stroke off the course and trust it.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15746 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:54 pm to
I find a slope on the green and put tees 20 feet apart. I try to sort out how fast a 20 foot putt is uphill, downhill, and flat. I try some 3-5 foot putts until I make several in a row from different angles, then I hit a few 30 to 50 footers.

Daylight savings time afternoon. No warmup. Straight to 1 tee and hope they roll average. Putt on 1 green after I finish hole. Then on to 2.
Posted by sdw1002
Member since Jun 2017
130 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:55 pm to
That shite makes my head hurt. Drink beer and make putts
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